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74 statements · 1 politicians · September 1, 2025
Statements by Marcos Rogério. 74 transcribed statements, with topic and stance on the ones the analysis classified. Topics: Criminal Procedure, Whistleblower Protection, Transparency & Investigation, Conflict of Interest.
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Tomorrow, at 11:00 a.m., at the Public Security Committee; therefore, he will participate.
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About: conduct extradition proceedings according to legal criteria
Now, the extradition request against Tagliaferro is based on a complaint from the Office of the Attorney General, which alleges crimes such as breach of official confidentiality, obstruction of proceedings and of the investigation, and coercion in the course of the proceedings.
- Neutral
About: conduct extradition proceedings according to legal criteria
Italy, as we all know, with which Brazil has maintained an extradition treaty since 1989, will have to assess whether the case meets the legal criteria.
- Neutral
About: conduct extradition proceedings according to legal criteria
And when we talk here about fitting the legal criteria, it is because, under the law that deals with these conditions for the extradition process between Brazil and Italy... among the criteria is the motive.
- Neutral
About: conduct extradition proceedings according to legal criteria
If the motive is political—some form of political persecution of a legal nature—extradition is prohibited under that provision between the two countries.
But there is a central point that needs to be debated.
- Ambiguous
About: implement whistleblower protection and reward programs
Are we facing an ordinary criminal or someone who made public information of collective interest, information of interest to Brazilian society?
Are we facing an ethical conflict? Are we facing a situation in which one must verify what is the object of the investigation, the leaked content, and what it represents in the legal realm?
And what is the ethical conflict here? What weighs more?
What weighs more: institutional secrecy or society's right to know the behind-the-scenes of decisions that affect democracy and therefore affect the lives of millions and millions of Brazilians?
What weighs more? Because, if you are faced with two situations, this judgment, this weighing must be made.
About: reduce state secrecy periods and expand transparency of official documents
The revelations known as "vaza toga" exposed internal practices of the Judiciary that should never have been handled outside the law.
This is a fact that has been denounced not only, from time to time, here from the rostrum of the Senate by a parliamentarian, but also by the national media, the Brazilian news outlets, the Brazilian press.
About: implement whistleblower protection and reward programs
And here, instead of looking at the facts and verifying the truthfulness and seriousness of what is being denounced, no—one seeks a messenger to frame, threaten and punish.
And then I ask: where is the legal basis for this within the democratic rule of law, within due process?
About: prevent judges from acting as interested parties in cases they hear
And at this point a great controversy arises. Minister Alexandre de Moraes, in this case, besides being a direct victim of the revelations, is also the direct person responsible for the extradition request and for conducting the process.
- Ambiguous
About: implement whistleblower protection and reward programs
And then, the first question: is this a criminal leak or is it a denunciation of relevant facts that society deserves to know, because it offends due process, because there are avenues there that are not lawful?
And another point: the one who is denouncing and who, at the same time as denouncing, is also conducting proceedings and now ordering the extradition is a victim.
But in what situation of institutional, democratic, legal normality would this be possible, would this be accepted?
About: prevent judges from acting as interested parties in cases they hear
See, I repeat: the Minister who requests the extradition is a victim of the revelations, but he is also responsible for conducting the process, conducting the inquiry, ordering measures, measures that could reach the point of imprisoning the whistleblower.
And, no less serious than that, is the extradition request.
Come on, let's be frank: what is the backdrop to the extradition at this moment?
Is it an extradition merely to bring him back to Brazil: "Look, this former staffer must return to Brazil, because Brazil is a wonderful country, it has wonderful beaches, wonderful cities, and it is better to be in Brazil than in Italy"?
About: ensure respect for due process in extradition proceedings
Is that it? No. They want to bring him to Brazil because they want to put him behind bars, because they want to order preventive detention.
And what is that? Is it coercion? Is it a threat?
Is it a culture of fear? Is it the imposition of fear as a mechanism of control?
About: ensure trial in the competent forum and respect for due process
See, Mr. President, I am bringing this fact for debate in the Plenary because it is becoming the rule.
About: ensure the Judiciary's independence and impartiality
This happened in relation to those accused of involvement in January 8, in the occupation, depredation and vandalism that occurred in the public spaces of the Parliament, the Judiciary and the Planalto (Presidential Palace), and then you again have someone who denounces being treated as a criminal.
About: prevent judges from acting as interested parties in cases they hear
In any republican system, it is inadmissible that someone be simultaneously an interested party and judge of their own case.
- Neutral
About: apply recusal and disqualification of judges with conflicts of interest
Moreover, the Brazilian Code of Civil Procedure – and the Code of Criminal Procedure, likewise – make this impediment clear.
A judge who has an interest in the case, or their spouse, cannot participate in the proceedings.
About: ensure respect for due process in extradition proceedings
This is a basic principle of law. Now, at the same time, it is important to ask: would the use of extradition in this case be a type of persecution of the whistleblower?
Wouldn't that drive away whistleblowers? And here I am issuing a warning, because what is being done now to this former court staffer, this former aide, is also a message to any whistleblower.
About: implement whistleblower protection and reward programs
And then you have the State, through one of its branches, the Judiciary, saying clearly: "Look, depending on who denounces, the State, which should protect the whistleblower in order to investigate the content brought to the public, will invert: instead of looking at the facts, it will look at the whistleblower, to disqualify him or to lock him up behind bars!"
And I ask: would this not drive away whistleblowers, journalists or citizens who are willing to reveal irregularities in public administration and, above all — I warn here — in the Judiciary?
We are faced with a question that must be placed on the debate.
About: preserve the Public Ministry's role as the holder of criminal prosecution
But, beyond this aspect, I would like to add that this Tagliaferro situation reveals an incoherence in our accusatory justice system.
Notice that I am bringing here, I am coining a phrase that is not everyday: "accusatory justice," because that is not the role of the Judiciary.
We understand and know, in the light of the law, in the light of the Constitution, that the role of accusation...
About: preserve the Public Ministry's role as the holder of criminal prosecution
Within criminal prosecution, the holder of the public criminal action is the Public Prosecutor's Office, which finds itself, day by day, diminished, with its role relativized, belittled, due to the usurpation of that role by another Power without legitimacy.
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