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EU FUI PERSEGUIDO POR FAZER ISSO... | Romeu Zema no Os Sócios
56 statements · 1 politicians · February 11, 2026 · 6 min
Statements by Romeu Zema. 56 transcribed statements, with topic and stance on the ones the analysis classified. Topics: Public Service, Public Health / Public Safety, Education.
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And what major differences did you notice in the way the private sector operates versus the public sector, the main ones?
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And I also wanted to know whether your experience in retail helped you.
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Because I really like it when I meet executives who have worked in retail, because margins are always very tight.
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So if someone isn't attentive to costs, before long they'll go into the red, you know?
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And then when that person arrives at a company with great margins, they say, 'wow, this is a different life.'
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But I wanted to know whether you were able to bring the lessons from the private world into the public sector and actually apply them.
You put it very well: retail companies have minimal margins; in fact, if you look at the retailers from 30 years ago, few are still around today.
I think about 90% are gone.
And many of those that remain are limping along.
And it's currently a very difficult period.
I get updates from my company there, which I sometimes learn about; we are paying to work.
And many retailers are in that situation.
E‑commerce came on strong, delinquency is high, interest rates are high.
The consumer has changed a lot; Betis arrived, other competitors appeared that never existed before.
So traditional retail, which is our case there, has suffered a lot.
But it helps a lot, because I've always noticed, Bruno and Malu, that you need, above all, to put together a good team.
And we have excellent people in the public sector.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
Remember that in the public sector you have many civil servants who passed public competitive exams, who are capable, but usually these people are relegated to a secondary role by politicking.
Let's take the case of Minas Gerais.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
Never before had a career official from the Secretariat of the Environment or the Secretariat of Education served as Secretary of the Environment or Secretary of Education.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
It's the same as in a company, Bruno, saying, 'look, you here can grow, but you'll never be the company's president.'
Do you understand?
Do you agree that this is a cold shower to the morale, to the enthusiasm of someone who wants to grow?
So there, in Minas, and I think in much of Brazil, it works like that.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
But we held a selection process and, for the first time in history, put a woman in charge of the Secretariat of the Environment who is a career official there; we put a former director, a professor, in charge of the Secretariat of Education.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
And when you have good people, and we carried out a selection process — including headhunters, which we used when I won the 2018 election — you start to have an edge.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
The public sector doesn't like competent people.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
It prefers people who go there to engage in politicking.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
That's why healthcare doesn't make progress, that's why public security doesn't make progress in Brazil.
This is the big problem of the public sector.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
They put there people who are more campaign operatives than people who understand health, security, education, public security.
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About: streamline the public apparatus and reduce government spending
And there... We are today, Bruno, the state that has the fewest secretariats.
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About: streamline the public apparatus and reduce government spending
If you were to do a survey, despite Minas being the second most populous state in Brazil — second only to São Paulo — we are the leanest state, with 14 secretariats.
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About: streamline the public apparatus and reduce government spending
Many cities in the interior have more secretaries than we have there.
Now, do you need three dentists in your mouth to solve your tooth problem?
You don't need to.
One good dentist will do.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
And that's how we did it there.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
So the public sector, besides having good people, has the politicking that, in my opinion, causes these people to be underutilized and also indignant.
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About: appoint qualified career civil servants to public management positions
And we got there by making that change.
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