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Porque a privatização da Sabesp era necessária
140 statements · 1 politicians · December 11, 2025 · 10 min
Statements by Tarcisio. 140 transcribed statements, with topic and stance on the ones the analysis classified. Topics: Sanitation, Flood Management & Urban Infrastructure, Environmental Policy, Fiscal Policy and Infrastructure.
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During the campaign, we dealt with a topic that was really sensitive, right?
- Neutral
About: privatize Sabesp
Dealing with the privatization of Sabesp.
- Ambiguous
About: privatize Sabesp
But how are you going to privatize Sabesp?
- Neutral
About: privatize Sabesp
Sabesp is a good company.
Yeah, true.
- Ambiguous
About: privatize Sabesp
And it can be even better.
- For
About: privatize Sabesp
And we took that on.
But why?
- For
About: universalize access to sanitation
Because of the feeling that we wouldn't be able, first, to meet the targets for universalizing sanitation.
- For
About: privatize Sabesp
Another thing, if we didn't do this, we would lose Sabesp.
For one reason.
- Neutral
About: require bidding for municipal sanitation operators at the end of program contracts
Each municipality had a program contract with Sabesp.
- Neutral
About: require bidding for municipal sanitation operators at the end of program contracts
At the end of each contract, that municipality was required to put a new sanitation operator out to tender or to establish its own municipal utility.
- Neutral
About: require bidding for municipal sanitation operators at the end of program contracts
It would no longer be able to extend those contracts.
What's the problem?
Loss of market share.
- Neutral
About: require bidding for municipal sanitation operators at the end of program contracts
The tender could be won by Sabesp or it might not be.
- For
About: maintain and promote shared sanitation infrastructure
A sanitation system is more efficient the more shared infrastructure we have.
Look, the water consumed in the city of São Paulo is not produced in the city of São Paulo.
The sewage of the city of São Paulo, to a large extent, is not treated in the city of São Paulo.
And the more infrastructure sharing we have, the better.
- For
About: maintain a cross-subsidy model for sanitation tariffs
So we needed to structure a model that would guarantee, among other things, cross-subsidized investment.
- Neutral
About: maintain a cross-subsidy model for sanitation tariffs
Of the 371 municipalities served by Sabesp, 11 municipalities run a surplus and generate revenue.
The other 360... run a deficit.
- Neutral
About: maintain a cross-subsidy model for sanitation tariffs
And we can keep the tariff at a low level because of this cross-subsidy.
- For
About: maintain and preserve the market architecture of sanitation with cross-subsidy
So maintaining this architecture, maintaining the market, was important.
- For
About: carry out capitalization for state sanitation companies
And the way to do that was through a capitalization operation.
Besides that, there's another thing.
- Neutral
About: expand sanitation coverage to informal and rural areas
Sabesp did not reach people in consolidated informal settlements.
It did not reach people in the favelas.
It did not reach people in the stilt-house settlements.
That was not provided for in the contract.
It did not reach people in rural areas.
- Neutral
About: expand sanitation coverage to informal and rural areas
Now, all those people are in the contract, they are covered by the contract.
- For
About: universalize access to sanitation
And so, to make this possible, I used to say, we'll do it in a year and a half.
Everyone said, it's impossible to do that in a year and a half.
- Neutral
About: ensure voluntary municipal adherence to sanitation contracts through persuasion
The municipalities' participation is voluntary; you'll have to convince all the mayors.
- Neutral
About: ensure voluntary municipal adherence to sanitation contracts through persuasion
We held meetings with all the mayors on two occasions.
At the end of the zero phase, when we defined the model, and later when we defined the annex that dealt with each municipality's investment.
- Neutral
About: convince the parliament to approve the sanitation model
We needed to convince the parliament.
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