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SABATINA: ROMEU ZEMA - Inteligência Ltda. Podcast #1923
1421 statements · 1 politicians · September 3, 2026 · 133 min
Statements by Romeu Zema. 1421 transcribed statements, with topic and stance on the ones the analysis classified. Topics: Public Service, Public Health / Public Safety, Education, Monetary Policy.
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1,421 statementsFull transcript of the video. Statements the analysis classified carry topic and stance.
Hello, Earthlings, how are you all doing?
I'm Rogério Vileira; another Inteligência Limitada on the election is starting, right, Homer?
That's it.
And we're starting today's session with Zema.
Our sabatina, which is an interview with participation from experts and journalists asking questions as well, in addition to ours and the chat's, right?
That's true.
So you at home send your question now—it's very important. The third block will be only your questions, if they're good.
If they're not, we'll ignore them.
Yes.
Send good questions, but participate.
We need your participation.
Before I start this talk, man, let me give a quick message to those watching who own a business.
What most holds back business growth today in Brazil isn't a lack of will or market—it's a lack of method, of a solid, well-rounded process.
I'm going to ask you, Romer.
Let me ask a question.
If our audience, I don't know, tomorrow—God forbid—drops by half, what's the exact action plan we have to take here?
Oh man, I have no idea.
You and almost nobody else, right?
It's hard.
And it's not because that's a bad thing.
It's because nobody gave you a process to follow.
And most business owners live like that—improvising, putting out fires.
Every single day.
That's exactly where G4 comes in.
And what I like about them is that they don't throw a bunch of courses at you.
They take your company, take you by the hand, do a diagnosis and tell you exactly which screw to tighten.
There's monthly mentoring from people who actually build companies, giving you direction.
That's how you change the game.
And look at the timing.
G4 is providing the compass.
A free course in management, applied artificial intelligence, focused for business owners.
Stop operating
like an amateur, man.
Scan the QR code on the screen or click the link in the description.
I hope it's on the screen.
It's on the screen.
G4, for those who want more.
Much more.
Teach this to Santos, okay?
Yeah. He isn't trained yet.
No, no, no, he's not reliable.
Look, let me ask something to the people at home too, okay, to you.
Who has already thought about taking a public-service exam, but froze, not knowing which one to choose?
It's more common than it seems.
Someone wakes up one day decided: I want to change my life, I want stability, I want a decent salary.
Then they open the browser, look—different exam notices at the same time—and freeze.
Federal, state, municipal exams, court, police, bank, mid-level positions, higher-level positions—each requires a different kind of study, each has a different examining board, each has its own way of testing.
And amid so many options, the decision gets stuck and time passes.
Well, you're at that point of indecision.
Our partner Estratégia Concurso, which is the leader in approvals in Brazil, created a free tool.
Excellent for helping you decide intelligently.
It's called Mapa dos Concursos.
It's basically a living map of the whole of Brazil with all open, planned and authorized public exams.
From federal to municipal, from north to south.
You go in, filter by state, by area, by education level and the map shows you what matches your profile.
Instead of switching tabs 20 times, looking around and so on, trying to understand the full picture, you see it all in one place and decide.
Knowing where it is, what it is and when.
Click the link in the description or... Or just go access it, right?
Through our QR Code that's on the screen.
Yeah, just point your phone at it.
Exactly, I almost caught you by surprise there, right?
Yeah, man.
So check out the Mapa dos Concursos and find the public exam closest to you.
Another thing I learned too, now I'm going to give a tip to everyone, is that we here are equipped with new chairs.
I think Zema came here with the old chair still, or was it already this one?
It was another one.
Did you see the level here.
One thing I've learned, whether you're an athlete, a musician, a professional, a high performer, is that the physical environment matters more than we admit.
We want to believe that willpower solves everything, but the body has limits.
And a bad chair is a silent limiter.
Element chairs were designed for people who take time spent sitting seriously.
Look at him, huh?
Complex adjustments for height, tilt, lumbar support, arms and head.
It's the kind of equipment you bring into your life and later don't understand how you ever lived without it.
And if you click the link now, while you're watching this show, and use the coupon INTELIGÊNCIA, it's the kind of investment you feel the same day.
Elements chair.
There's nobody in Brazil who knows more about sitting in a chair than I do.
I've done 12-hour livestreams.
That's right. I've done 3 livestreams in the same day.
It's true.
And today we're going to be with Zema for 10 hours.
He arranged it.
He already arranged it.
Isn't it 10 hours?
No, it's a bit less.
11 hours.
11 hours here.
So here's the thing, remind people to send questions and let's get started.
That's it.
So leave your like, subscribe to the channel, become a member, share this video with all your crew and get your questions ready.
Alright, folks?
That's it.
Zema, welcome.
Introduce yourself for those who don't know you and need to get to know you.
This is your chamber.
Sell your fish.
Good evening, Vilela.
Good evening to everyone following us.
It's a great pleasure to be here.
back on Inteligência.
I'm an ordinary Brazilian, I was born in the interior of Minas, in a small town called Araxá.
I never depended on the State, like the vast majority of Brazilians.
I scarcely provided for the State, practically only for the customer, for your Mr. José, for Mrs. Maria.
And my career was in the private sector.
I consider myself an entrepreneur, I did have help from my father who lent me some capital, but in 30 years I opened 470 stores, the company is still running, generating more than 5,000 direct jobs in a sector where, unfortunately, the vast majority of companies are disappearing in Brazil.
I went into politics out of indignation, out of displeasure with the PT, with Fernando Pimentel of the PT, who destroyed my state, Minas Gerais.
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About: recover public services and state finances
I took over a broken, bankrupt, ruined state that paid salaries and pensions in three installments and... Five months ago I handed over a tidy state to my successor, with the accounts in order; what was a graveyard of abandoned, unfinished works is today a large construction site under way.
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About: expand the public healthcare network
And one of the things I am most proud of is how much we improved healthcare in Minas.
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About: expand the public healthcare network
More than 400 UBS, Basic Health Units.
Vilela, the state had regions where people had to travel to get a consultation, to do simple things.
Today, thank God, that's in the past.
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About: improve the quality of education
We improved education, the school meals and, of course, the security indicators.
Minas, which has always been a state that exported mineiros to all of Brazil.
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About: stimulate economic activity
IBGE indicated that during the Zema government the flow was the opposite, Brazilians moving to Minas Gerais.
So that makes me very proud, we gained share in Brazil's GDP, that is, Minas' economy has been growing more than Brazil's.
And that's what I want for Brazil.
We have 5 million Brazilians living abroad and when we have a country functioning properly, many of them will return because they'll see the opportunities are here.
You can't start this chat with any subject other than what has been rocking the whole of Brazil since yesterday, which is this possible — I don't know if we even call it possible anymore — involvement of Alexandre de Moraes in such a clear and absurd way, in the Master case, with messages now being opened to the public.
What do you have to say about that?
I know you've been very combative towards them and many candidates are quiet.
Give an overall picture before we start the questions.
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About: combat corruption and impunity
Vilela, those who follow me know that it's probably been a year since I've been fighting these untouchables.
Those who are there in Brasília and consider themselves above the law, above the Constitution, who consider themselves Brazilians of a class above the others.
As far as I know, the law applies to everyone.
The law is the same for everyone.
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About: investigate and punish abuse of authority by members of the Judiciary
If a first-instance judge had done what this gentleman Alexandre de Moraes did, that judge could never continue performing his function.
Now a minister of the Supreme Federal Tribunal doing what he is doing is much more serious.
If a priest does something wrong, an abuse of a child, it's extremely serious.
Now, if the Pope does it, can you imagine?
It's as if the Pope were abusing a child, that's what this minister is doing.
The highest court in Brazil has historically always been seen as the place where crises were handled,
they would shrink in size, and now those who were firefighters in the past are turning into arsonists.
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About: investigate and punish abuse of authority by members of the Judiciary
For me, this is not just a case of expelling him, no.
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About: investigate and punish abuse of authority by members of the Judiciary
It's a case of arresting him.
He used the position for which he is already very well paid, has security, has a series of perks and privileges, and still wasn't satisfied, no.
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About: investigate and punish corruption in public administration
He even wanted to arrange a contract for his wife, just because of his position, because nobody gets that kind of contract in Brazil, in the amount of 129 million.
And a few months ago he lied, let's be clear, on top of everything he's a liar, brazenly.
He said he had nothing to do with it.
Now what came out yesterday?
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About: investigate and punish corruption in public administration
That it was on his computer that the contract was.
Edited, there were some changes.
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About: investigate the use of intermediaries tied to politicians in contracts
Calls from the biggest criminal banker in history, Daniel Vorcaro.
He is a legal consultant for criminals, make that clear.
A legal consultant for a criminal who is detained and who does not consider himself suspect.
Neither him, nor Toffoli, nor Gilmar Mendes.
What kind of country is this?
Any layperson who's never studied law knows it's wrong for someone who is neck-deep in a crime to be someone who conducts the process, who judges.
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About: investigate and hold authorities involved in scandals accountable
The PGR is the same thing.
Everyone is bought.
And the president?
What did the president say?
Did anyone see the president?
Lula.
He hasn't said anything so far.
He did: "I want everything looked into, I want everything to be investigated, I want whoever is guilty to be punished according to the law."
Did he say anything?
He didn't say that?
He didn't say anything.
Then he's indebted, president.
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About: publicly take a position and support investigation of irregularities
He has to take a position.
He didn't say anything.
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About: combat corruption and impunity
And what I did in Minas was that.
What I did in Minas since the day I took office on January 1st, '19, Vilela, was speak out.
My main banner here is fighting corruption.
So much so that the criminal banker Vorcaro, I don't know if you know, he was born in Belo Horizonte, grew up there, studied, got married, graduated.
He had children, he has a residence.
Me, governor of the state where he resides.
Me, in Belo Horizonte, the same city where he resides.
Have you ridden in his private jet?
So, I never met him.
Were you in that photo by the pool?
No, I never met him.
I've never flown on his private jet.
Guess how many meetings he requested to meet with me.
I, governor of Minas.
He asked?
He never asked, never.
He knew my stance.
Now in Brasília, by those untouchables, Vilela, he was received on a red carpet.
He was received with all the pomp there.
So much so that they became buddies.
I wasn't invited to the tasting.
What's that thing called there?
Macallan.
I wasn't invited to the Macallan.
Guys, I'm classy, I drink Macallan every day.
I forgot the name here.
I'm sure that those of you following us didn't go.
But the luxury legal advisor, the most expensive legal advisor in Brazil, who instead of issuing the invoice in his own name had it issued in his wife's, went.
His colleagues over at the STF, who flew on the criminal banker's jets, went too.
Who else went?
President of the Chamber, president of the Senate, who don't want to vote in the minister's case.
Exactly, that's what I'm saying.
He doesn't even want to hear, hasn't seen, doesn't know.
And, man, how can so much power be in one guy when the Senate should decide and not be in the hands of a single person, right?
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About: change rules to reduce parliamentary bargaining by the Centrão
We have to change that governance.
If the majority of senators... But if the people put pressure, I think he'll change his mind, because these people only fear the people.
It needs to change.
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About: reelection of the President of the Senate
And I'm rooting for that president not to be re-elected.
He must not.
Not as a senator and not as president of the Senate.
He can't.
He's a bought man, a sold-out politician, like most of those who are there.
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About: open impeachment proceedings against STF ministers
And there's no other route but the Senate for impeachment.
Under the current Constitution, no.
It needs to go to the Senate.
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About: renew the composition of the Senate
And I'm confident we'll have a good renewal in the Senate on October 4th.
We'll bring in senators braver than those who are there.
Especially the president of the chamber, who is the most sold-out of them.
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About: investigate irregularities and transfers involving Banco Master
His state's pension fund was one of those that did business with Banco Master.
Maybe that's why he wants to leave everything as it is, so that the investigations don't advance.
And remembering here, Vilela, that Banco Master only did business with state-owned companies that suffered losses.
BRB, pension funds of various states, municipalities, no private entity.
They put money there.
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About: investigate and hold those involved in financial scandals accountable
But the sold-out politicians, who appoint the board of directors, those profited in some way to put their money, my money and that of those following us here and there.
Just from BRB, what's the shortfall there?
12 billion reais.
The feeling we have is that nothing will happen.
Do you think anything can actually happen?
That the system will protect the system?
That everyone will make a big agreement?
Other people saying this is just to divert and alter the result of the election.
Today things from André also leaked, trying to put him on the same level.
André Mendonça has already explained himself.
What do you think can happen?
No, it will happen.
It can't stay like this.
Or else... Whoever is Brazilian will say, 'I'm going to give up on this country.'
Will someone go to the Catholic Church if it's discovered that the Pope is abusing little children?
And he stays as Pope?
No, that possibility doesn't exist.
The STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) has already lost, and remembering that we have good justices there.
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About: preserve and recover the credibility of the Judiciary
And then they take up the issue of Justice André Mendonça, whom I... I respect and admire.
He is not a show-off justice like the others.
You've seen his posture, right?
A serious justice.
He's taking on a very big fight there.
Okay.
May God enlighten him, and I ask everyone here to pray for him.
And that he be careful when taking a plane too, right?
Because we know in this country that strange things happen.
Exactly.
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About: treat STF ministers as untouchable
And then he met with the criminal banker in an institutional capacity.
It was just a scheduled public appointment, nothing secret like Lula's, like the other ministers' there, and now they're trying to equate him with the other ministers.
It has nothing to do with it.
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About: preserve and recover the credibility of the Judiciary
André Mendonça is another level, far superior to those who took a free ride.
I'm sure he would never hitch a ride.
A nobody's private jet.
Zema, let's start with the issues there.
Let's do a little teasing first, then, about rare earths.
Let's test your knowledge.
Please put on your headphones.
Let's roll the jingle and the bit, please.
Good evening, Vilela.
Good evening, Zema.
I hope everything is well with you there.
Well, you know, I've been poking folks on social media to talk, you know.
About rare earths, and you, Zema, are the guy who was governor of the state that holds Brazil's largest rare earths reserve, one of the largest in the world.
First, if I may ask two questions, I'd like you to tell a bit about how your whole administration dealt with this, focused on this—what in your administration you did aimed at rare earths and... In the event you become president of Brazil, my question is very simple; it's a question I'd like to ask everyone.
What are the short-, medium-, and long-term plans regarding rare earths in Brazil?
I know, I'm familiar with this area, I know you can't do everything at once, that you need something for now, something for the medium term, something for the long term.
If something truly long-term... We know it goes beyond a single term, because it's something that takes much longer than a term, far more than four years, if this is of interest to whoever is president — in your case, if you were president, you understand?
But basically that's it.
The short-, medium-, and long-term plans, how to deal with the environmental issue and how to deal with processing, which we know is one of the big problems of rare earths today.
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About: develop a local mining and processing chain for rare earths
Ninety percent of rare earths processing today is done in China.
So how are you going to do that?
For the production of the oxides, which is already a big advantage, and for the production of the end product there, which has military applications, applications for artificial intelligence — a lot, because of chips and so on.
So, from this overview for us of your government, what are your plans?
For Brazil's rare earths, divided into those stages.
A big hug.
Great evening to everyone there.
Great evening to everyone who's listening.
And, as I say, everywhere I'm lecturing, everywhere I'm speaking, ask your politician.
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About: present a public government plan
They have to have a plan.
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About: present a public government plan
What you can't have is no plan.
- For
About: present a public government plan
You may not agree with their plan, but they have to have a plan.
Big hug.
What's your plan, Zema?
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About: present a public government plan
It can't be a secret plan.
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About: present a public government plan
It's not secret, no.
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About: carry out mineral processing and beneficiation in Brazil
Vilela, I always like to say that rare earths here in Brazil need to follow a path similar to the one Brazil followed and was very successful at, which is the case of niobium.
I don't know if you know the case of niobium.
Brazil's largest niobium mine is in the city of Araxá.
Around 70 or 80 years ago that deposit was discovered in Araxá.
And a Brazilian company that formed a joint venture, an association with an American company, developed all the technology to separate the niobium from the soil, from the mud, from the clay where it is found there.
In the city of Araxá.
This was developed here in Brazil.
There was participation by foreign companies, but Brazilian capital, let it be clear, has always been the majority.
They also developed the method to industrialize this niobium.
They extracted the niobium and now?
Can it become metal?
Can it become a chemical for the pharmaceutical industry, can it become a component for the optics industry, what can it become?
And, besides that, they developed applications.
I was born in that city, so I can say I witnessed it.
Throughout my life, I saw metallurgy conferences held there... metallurgy is the main application of ferro-niobium or niobium, with participation from metallurgical engineers from Europe, Asia, North America, from all over the world.
They would stay there for a week showing their studies, learning about the company's production process.
And today that company there — it's a Brazilian company, it has foreign capital, but more than 70% of it is Brazilian.
And it holds all that technology which is registered to it.
It's a Brazilian technology.
And it's an extremely profitable company.
It's perhaps one of the most valuable companies in Brazil.
But because it operates in a niche that nobody knows about, because it's not typical consumer stuff, nobody ever bought pure niobium.
But there may be niobium in our cell phones, in the airplane we fly on — there's niobium everywhere.
But it was the aerospace industry that put it there, or it was the electronics industry that put it there.
So that company makes all the difference.
In the city of Araxá, in Minas Gerais and in Brazil.
In Minas, it's always among the state's largest exporters.
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About: carry out mineral processing and beneficiation in Brazil
So I say that mastering the technology is fundamental, because Brazil cannot continue making the same mistakes of the past, as still happens with mining, which I am sad to see, with iron ore.
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About: carry out mineral processing and beneficiation in Brazil
Iron ore in Minas undergoes beneficiation and is exported with little added value.
And Brazil then imports steel, mainly from China, to which it sold the iron ore.
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About: carry out mineral processing and beneficiation in Brazil
So, for me, that's not the way.
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About: ensure legal certainty for extraction and processing of minerals in Brazil
The way is for us to provide full legal security to whoever is extracting.
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About: carry out mineral processing and beneficiation in Brazil
For whoever is processing, industrializing rare earths here in Brazil, involve the federal universities to help with research.
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About: coordinate federal universities for applied research on strategic minerals
That was done in the case of niobium; federal universities also participated.
And besides that, we have financing here.
Many companies that want to create jobs in Brazil, that will pay taxes, need financing.
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About: offer public financing for strategic industrial projects
If it's a solid project that stands on its own, the government has to step in as a financing agent.
Of course, taking all guarantees, etc.
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About: promote development of a national value chain for energy and mining
So I say that the path rare earths will follow is the same that lithium has also followed in Minas Gerais — for those who don't know, during my tenure as governor we created the Vale do Lítio (Lithium Valley).
In northern Minas, Vilela, we had one of the state's least developed regions, which is the Vale do Jequitinhonha, which was even known as the region of widows of living husbands.
Because most of the men would leave for other states, mainly São Paulo, southern Minas, to work and would send a little money back to the wives who stayed behind taking care of the children.
A very sad reality.
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About: build an industrial mineral processing park in the Vale do Jequitinhonha
During my administration, we brought several lithium companies to that region, to the Vale do Jequitinhonha, which created thousands of direct and indirect jobs.
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About: build an industrial mineral processing park in the Vale do Jequitinhonha
And that region, which was the least developed in Minas, was the one that grew the most.
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About: build an industrial mineral processing park in the Vale do Jequitinhonha
In job openings, in job generation, proportionally to the population in the last five or six years.
Exactly for that reason.
Someone who had a small restaurant there today has several large restaurants.
I met an entrepreneur there who had... 30 cars to rent; today he has 400 cars to rent to these companies that set up there.
Hotels multiplied because now demand is large.
There are always people doing maintenance, building, etc.
So that's what I want.
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About: promote development of a national value chain for energy and mining
And to add value to the companies that are there in the Lithium Valley, in the Vale do Jequitinhonha.
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About: promote development of a national value chain for energy and mining
To have the commitment to, over time, keep adding value until we reach a battery, which is the product with the highest added value, in the case of lithium.
And in the case of rare earths, the matter of magnets, for which they are needed.
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About: strengthen oversight and accountability for environmental crimes
And remembering that all environmental care has been taken; the companies... are subjected to the same scrutiny.
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About: strengthen oversight and accountability for environmental crimes
Recall that I was the governor, Vilela, who faced the last major environmental disaster in Minas, which was the Brumadinho tragedy, which happened in my first month in office.
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About: strengthen oversight and accountability for environmental crimes
And I said, Minas Gerais will never face that again.
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About: strengthen oversight and accountability for environmental crimes
And since then, the state has only become safer.
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About: promote dam-free mining technologies (filtering) to reduce risks
And with these companies, which have even adopted... filtration mining technology, which no longer uses reservoirs, dams — the risk is infinitely smaller.
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About: strengthen oversight and accountability for environmental crimes
So, care for the environment is being exercised.
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About: adjust environmental preservation policies to prioritize local well-being
And we must remember that Brazil, due to the eco-Chiites, has already made many mistaken decisions that harmed... economic development and also the environment, as unbelievable as it may seem.
Twenty, thirty years ago, large hydroelectric plants were built in the northern region.
Belo Monte, Santo Antônio — those two were built as run-of-river plants.
Because you couldn't put water in a reservoir because it would flood forest.
But the plan for rare earths, huh?
What are we going to do?
But I'd just like to make a comparison here.
They were built as run-of-river and today, Vilela, they're building thermal power plants in Brazil to meet demand.
How absurd.
Understood?
- Ambiguous
About: leverage the energy transition and develop rare earth mining
They didn't allow a lake to be built, today we are burning fossil fuel.
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About: actively participate in the energy transition by developing a supply chain for lithium and rare earths
So we have to remember that lithium... that electromagnets are fundamental in this energy transition that the globe is going through, that humanity is going through.
So, if Minas Gerais has a mine today, that mine will contribute to preventing a lot of fossil fuel from being emitted in the future, which are electric motors, motors for wind power, are... equipment that will be used in photovoltaic cells and so on.
So we have to remember.
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About: actively participate in the energy transition by developing a supply chain for lithium and rare earths
What is being extracted today, people say, they're digging a hole here, but it's to avoid burning fossil fuel.
So, at this moment of energy transition, the demand for copper, for several minerals, increases a lot.
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About: Open markets and negotiate trade agreements
And Brazil needs to participate and call its trading partners and even negotiate well and say, I sell to you.
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About: Open markets and negotiate trade agreements
but I want to sell you the industrialized product, but I want that for you to buy this here, you buy meat from me, you buy grain from me, put that on the scale to be able to earn better.
This is the moment we have.
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About: Open markets and negotiate trade agreements
If you have an exceptional product, you can be... making a bundle so that your customer takes the bundle, without affecting commercial interests, a win-win relationship.
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About: develop science, technology and industrialize the country
But Brazil needs to take advantage of this the same way several Arab countries, Vilela, took advantage of the oil boom.
Anyone who's been to the Emirates,
etc.,
knows what they did.
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About: implement market economic policies in natural resource management
There are others, like Venezuela, that went backwards.
Today, Venezuela is a ruined country and is sitting on one of the largest oil reserves in the world.
Where socialist ideas arrive, this happens.
Let's move on to public security, right, my dear Romer?
Let's go.
Let's do Pimentel.
Play the video, please, director.
Vilela, thank you very much for the opportunity to be here with you at this special event.
And it's an honor to ask questions to the presidential candidates.
Logically, questions about public security.
I would like to ask candidate Zema about something that doesn't greatly impact the Brazilian's life.
Brazilians are truly more worried about cell phone theft.
But something that doesn't impact the citizen's life, but greatly impacts Brazil's image abroad.
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About: conduct federal operations against drug trafficking and arms trafficking
Brazil today, candidate Zema, is the largest cocaine gateway in the world.
All the cocaine produced in South America crosses the Solimões Route and seeks Brazilian ports to reach Italy, Spain, Portugal, England, also France.
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About: mobilize all federal institutions to combat organized crime
Do you have any idea, sir, in your relentless plan, to use the Armed Forces, Army, Navy, Air Force, in combating trafficking on the Solimões Route?
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About: mobilize all federal institutions to combat organized crime
Because truly... The Federal Police and the Military Police of Amazonas and of Pará do not have the resources, logistical capacity to operate over that territorial dimension that is the Amazon region.
So I ask you about actions for effective combat against the Solimões Route, the largest cocaine gateway in the world.
Great Pimentel, we have a plan.
yes, Vilela.
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About: combat organized crime through international cooperation
My plan, which is this relentless plan he mentioned, is that as soon as I assume the presidency, together with the neighboring countries involved — I'm talking about Bolivia, Colombia, Peru, those three countries are the producers, the drug route — we, together with the United States, will monitor this region as never before.
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About: mobilize all federal institutions to combat organized crime
And I will put the armed forces to help on this issue.
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About: mobilize all federal institutions to combat organized crime
We have a navy, we have the air force, we have an army that can contribute with the Federal Police.
And I want to decree, I say that Brazil today is a country that is no longer sovereign.
So many people talk about sovereignty, sovereignty.
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About: reoccupy territories dominated by criminal factions
Brazil today is controlled by organized crime.
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About: reoccupy territories dominated by criminal factions
Various statistics and studies point out that 60 million Brazilians live in areas that are no longer controlled by the Brazilian State, but rather by organized crime.
And it is the dictatorship of extortion.
These 60 million Brazilians are victims of extortion, they pay more for water, for electricity, for the internet, if someone there has a business.
They also have to pay a monthly allowance.
And these people are the ones who run everything.
They collect billions and, in addition to controlling territory, they traffic drugs.
Both activities are extremely lucrative.
I don't know if you know, in Rio de Janeiro there is an electric utility company called Light.
Yes.
There was one here in São Paulo too.
When I was a child it was Light.
It was Light, right?
My father... When we left the light on we used to say, I think I'm a shareholder of Light.
Exactly.
Did you hear that too, Rony?
And do you know that Light is going bankrupt?
It's going bankrupt.
It is in a bankrupt situation.
And do you know why?
I ran into an executive the other day.
It's public news.
52% — more than half of what it supplies in energy, Vilela.
Is stolen.
It doesn't receive it.
Someone is receiving it.
And it is organized crime that receives it.
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About: mobilize all federal institutions to combat organized crime
So I will deploy the entire apparatus of the State to fight organized crime.
And up there the heads are the same.
Whoever controls territory is the one who rents jets, ships, speedboats to be able to carry the drugs.
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About: dismantle organized crime leadership and their financial structures
And when you start cutting off the heads... putting these people behind bars, you begin to destabilize these organizations and also conduct intelligence-based combat, which is through the Federal Revenue Service, COAF, ABIN, and declare these institutions, factions, criminal organizations as terrorists.
Last year, I had the opportunity to go and see... personally the work that was done in El Salvador, which followed this line.
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About: dismantle organized crime leadership and their financial structures
If it's a faction, if it's a criminal organization, it's a terrorist.
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About: impose differentiated treatment on factions (harsher penalties, special prisons, isolation, and financial strangulation)
If it's a terrorist, it's at least 25 years' imprisonment with no kind of benefit, including no conjugal visits, no private meetings with a lawyer.
Everything recorded, everything monitored.
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About: dismantle organized crime leadership and their financial structures
It's about treating criminals as criminals and not as victims of society, as our president says.
There is a way, yes.
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About: combat organized crime through international cooperation
And cooperation from the United States does not in any way mean loss of sovereignty.
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About: strengthen international cooperation in combating drug trafficking
It does mean satellites helping to monitor this region, which we know is difficult to access, more technology.
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About: combat organized crime through international cooperation
training for our men here to be able to operate our equipment better or others that may come, because the United States and Europe, where the consumption of narcotics, of cocaine, is concentrated, have the greatest interest in ending this drug route here.
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About: mobilize the armed forces in operations in the Amazon
So, it is necessary... for us to take this stance of fighting crime as has never happened in Brazil.
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About: dismantle organized crime leadership and their financial structures
We have a lax government, a president who says, as I said now, that traffickers are victims of society.
Where someone is a victim, you will help them and not punish them.
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About: impose differentiated treatment on factions (harsher penalties, special prisons, isolation, and financial strangulation)
What I want is punishment.
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