Romeu Zema: So, at this moment of energy transition, the demand for copper, for several minerals, increases a lot.
Romeu Zema: And Brazil needs to participate and call its trading partners and even negotiate well and say, I sell to you.
but I want to sell you the industrialized product, but I want that for you to buy this here, you buy meat from me, you buy grain from me, put that on the scale to be able to earn better.
Romeu Zema: This is the moment we have.
Romeu Zema: If you have an exceptional product, you can be... making a bundle so that your customer takes the bundle, without affecting commercial interests, a win-win relationship.