Romeu Zema: Because we know in this country that strange things happen.
Romeu Zema: Exactly.
And then he met with the criminal banker in an institutional capacity.
Romeu Zema: It was just a scheduled public appointment, nothing secret like Lula's, like the other ministers' there, and now they're trying to equate him with the other ministers.
Romeu Zema: It has nothing to do with it.