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O crime é do século 21; a legislação, de 1940
36 statements · 1 politicians · December 4, 2025 · 3 min
Statements by Tarcisio. 36 transcribed statements, with topic and stance on the ones the analysis classified. Topics: Money Laundering, Combating Tax Evasion, Organized Crime, Legislature / Governability.
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- Neutral
About: combat money laundering
Why is there so much money laundering in the fuel sector?
- For
About: approve a law to hold habitual debtors accountable
Because, to this day, for example, the law on the habitual tax debtor has not been approved.
- Neutral
About: approve a law to hold habitual debtors accountable
Today there is a complementary bill, number 125, which has already passed in the Senate and is in the Chamber, and the habitual tax debtor for us is a scourge.
- Neutral
About: approve a law to hold habitual debtors accountable
What is a habitual tax debtor?
- Neutral
About: investigate and hold recalcitrant debtors accountable
That guy who makes not paying taxes his business plan.
- Neutral
About: combat money laundering
And this favors money laundering in this sector, because he does not compete on equal terms with others.
- Neutral
About: investigate and hold recalcitrant debtors accountable
And there are guys who owe more than 60 billion in taxes.
- Neutral
About: investigate and hold recalcitrant debtors accountable
Here in São Paulo I have a company that owes 10 billion.
- For
About: disregard the legal personality of shell companies
And then they open a CNPJ, close the CNPJ, open a company, close another, you search the registration, it already has another registration, it opens in someone else's name — you have to disregard the legal personality, you have to apply joint tax liability at the gas stations to prevent that guy from buying fuel.
- Neutral
About: investigate and hold tax evaders accountable
from those who are evading, because payments were not collected due to the scheme, which is an important matter.
- Neutral
About: investigate and hold tax evaders accountable
So how is it that the guy owes 10 billion in taxes to you and is operating?
- Neutral
Desconhecido
About: investigate and hold tax evaders accountable
Sometimes people might say, 'No, but this guy is not such a serious criminal, he's just a tax evader.'
- Neutral
Desconhecido
About: combat money laundering
No — thanks to that tax evasion, it is an important, fundamental tool for money laundering in the sector.
- Neutral
Igor Coelho
About: combat money laundering
We're not talking about a guy who runs a small shop.
- Neutral
Igor Coelho
About: combat money laundering
We're talking about 10 billion reais.
- Neutral
Desconhecido
About: combat money laundering
Just in São Paulo.
Desconhecido
One company.
- Neutral
Igor Coelho
About: investigate the link between tax evasion and organized crime
And it's hard to imagine that this is not connected to crime.
- Neutral
About: investigate and hold tax evaders accountable
Do you know how much we lose in this capital flight?
- Neutral
About: approve a law to hold habitual debtors accountable
With habitual tax debtors, even more.
- Neutral
About: investigate and hold tax evaders accountable
Across Brazil, in various businesses — not just the fuel business — 140 billion per year.
- Neutral
About: investigate the link between tax evasion and organized crime
These are taxes being evaded and facilitating money laundering operations, the operations of organized crime in these various lines of business.
- For
About: approve a law to hold habitual debtors accountable
So the law on the habitual tax debtor is important.
- For
About: approve laws in the National Congress
So Congress will suddenly come to the conclusion, 'look, we have to get past this stage.'
- For
About: approve laws in the National Congress
We need to get past this stage; there is no longer any justification for not approving the law on the habitual tax debtor.
- For
About: increase measures for forfeiture of criminals' assets
Then suddenly Congress will face the following question: why is it so difficult, or why aren't we quicker to decree the forfeiture of assets?
- Neutral
About: define procedural stages for asset seizure
At what stage of the process can we have assets seized?
- For
About: increase measures for forfeiture of criminals' assets
So, I've initiated proceedings — can I already seize the asset?
- Neutral
About: authorize forfeiture of assets after conviction in a second instance
If the person was convicted at second instance, forfeiture may eventually follow.
- Neutral
About: establish special procedural treatment for members of criminal organizations
What different treatment am I going to give to a faction member, to a member of a criminal organization?
- For
About: increase measures for forfeiture of criminals' assets
So, it has to be... I have to strip away the resources of the crime.
- For
About: ban the use of illicit funds to pay for defense and lawyers
And I cannot allow illicit funds to be used, for example, to pay for an attorney.
- For
About: improve legislation to combat organized crime and money laundering
There is a lot we can improve in terms of legislation, and I hope Congress concludes this in the various efforts they are making.
- For
About: update criminal law to confront organized crime
So there is an effort that will be made now in the Chamber of Deputies, there is this effort by the CPI, and I hope they find ways to make Brazilian legislation more adapted to the reality of the factions, because we have 21st-century crime with 1940s legislation.
That's the issue.
- For
About: update criminal law to confront organized crime
And it is this adjustment that we need to make if we want to be effective in combating organized crime, and this role will fall to Congress.
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