Tarcisio: That guy who makes not paying taxes his business plan.
Tarcisio: And this favors money laundering in this sector, because he does not compete on equal terms with others.
And there are guys who owe more than 60 billion in taxes.
Tarcisio: Here in São Paulo I have a company that owes 10 billion.
Tarcisio: And then they open a CNPJ, close the CNPJ, open a company, close another, you search the registration, it already has another registration, it opens in someone else's name — you have to disregard the legal personality, you have to apply joint tax liability at the gas stations to prevent that guy from buying fuel.