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allTV - Painel Haddad (29/07/2019) - Fernando Haddad entrevista Djamila Ribeiro
285 statements · 1 politicians · July 29, 2019 · 31 min
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Good evening.
We are once again in this All TV space and on social media to discuss Brazilian and Latin American reality.
My guest today is a writer, philosopher and feminist.
She is on the front line of defending racial and gender equality.
Good evening, Jamila Ribeiro.
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Good evening.
It's a great pleasure to be here with you.
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The pleasure is mine.
Well, you have had some books now... translated into French and published in France and Belgium.
Books that had, of course, already been released in Brazil on place of speech and Black feminism.
I'd like to start by asking you — because it's a concept that is still somewhat controversial and often misunderstood — what do you understand, in very few words, by place of speech?
Because from that I want to conduct an interview with you.
Based on the concepts you explore.
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Yes, there are still many misconceptions around the concept, right?
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But when we talk about place of speech, above all it is a debate about social position.
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So there's a whole body of work by Black and Latina feminists, who began speaking about this many years ago; it's about understanding what the social position of groups is.
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Everyone is socially located, so everyone has a place of speech.
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So there's no such thing as 'oh, it's not my place of speech, I don't have a place of speech.'
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The big problem is that the white man often sees himself as the universal subject.
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He also does not see himself as marked; he also does not see himself as socially located.
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And he speaks from a place in our society that is the place of privilege, of whiteness, of power.
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And we, Black women, for example, come from a place where the fact that we are triply oppressed — combining the pressures of race, class and gender — places us in a position of vulnerability.
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So we end up sharing experiences; it's not an individual debate.
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Because it's not possible to think of an analytical tool that accounts for so many individuals.
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So we are thinking about which experiences we share by being socially located in a given place.
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Speaking in terms of Brazil, there's a high maternal mortality rate, a high rate of femicide, a high rate of Black women still working as domestic servants.
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If we think about Black men, high rates of incarceration, of police lethality, and so on.
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And because we are in those vulnerable positions, we cannot... transcend to other spaces; consequently our discourses and our academic productions cannot either.
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What we're saying is that we speak from a social place in which we were excluded and marginalized.
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And there are groups that speak from social positions that were historically created through the oppression of these groups.
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And these groups end up not seeing the other realities of other social groups.
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They see only their own reality because they always interact among themselves; they don't discuss issues that don't directly affect them.
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So it's not about what each person can speak about; what we're saying is that each person is socially located and speaks from that place.
That is, a white man can speak about feminism, can speak about racism.
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He should.
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He should speak up.
That's what I wanted.
In what terms can this dialogue be established?
Because I can think of the situation of a white man.
Very exploited, for example, in the countryside.
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