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Painel Haddad (07/10/2019) - Manuela D'Avila (parte 2)
301 statements · 1 politicians · October 7, 2019 · 31 min
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Manuela, we are in the 1990s, after the fall of the Wall and after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
So it's a world quite different from the times of the founding of the PCdoB, formerly PCB.
What did you think when you joined a party that had 'communist' in its name?
Which you're still a member of today.
How do you deal with that?
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This is a very interesting question, because the people who were active in the political movement during the 70s, 80s and 90s either follow the PCdoB from within, those who are affiliated, or those who are outside, who observe the other party.
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to go through those changes while living through that historical period.
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So, I was born in 1981.
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I have very faint memories of the period when the Wall fell.
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So I remember, like, my father saying 'look, on TV the Berlin Wall is falling,' but it's a thing... a spark, a flash of a real memory.
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For me, the fall of the Berlin Wall is historical knowledge.
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And I came into a PCdoB that had made a very great effort to build a development project for Brazil.
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It was already on the eve of our congress in which there was a big encounter between the party and, let's say, this idea of the need for a national project — a debate that the rest of the left was not yet having in the early 2000s, because there was also no urgency to do so.
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So I did not live through that period inside the PCdoB.
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I also arrived in a PCdoB with different readings that were closely related to what I was doing and studying.
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So I entered a PCdoB that studies Gramsci, unlike the earlier period; to contextualize, I found a PCdoB engaged in a different debate about what the Stalin era was.
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So, all of that... I remember a meeting I had with Maria do Rosário, who was an activist in the PCdoB in the 1990s, and she said, 'but the PCdoB is from Albania.'
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I said, 'look, Rosário, the one who joined the Albania PCdoB was you.'
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When I joined the PCdoB, that debate had already been overcome.
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I never made that choice.
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My choice had already been for a party... that had the traits of an organization with characteristics I find important, so a party that defends socialism, that believes in the idea of the need for an organization to carry out the political struggle, the contest for political power, which we believe in.
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that has electoral importance in a country like ours, but associated with a national development project and the idea of the importance of a sense of nation to confront neoliberalism — which was something not very present in other political forces either, who still had a lot of contradiction between the idea of nation and socialist internationalism.
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So I think that was my... my identity, the PCdoB I found.
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And for me, always, I never had the contradiction that people saw or see, because I have a personal and school Christian upbringing.
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So I lived in the interior of Rio Grande do Sul; I did all my elementary education there.
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My father and mother were Christians.
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My mother more than my father, but both.
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My father's family is deeply religious and Catholic.
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My grandfather, who died recently, never — imagine if he ever spent a Christmas without going to Midnight Mass, or any Sunday without being at Mass.
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Ah, I mean, a strong tradition.
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Yes, with the family tradition of the interior of Rio Grande do Sul, the border region, with my grandfather doing that, and I studied in the schools that existed in my towns, which were nuns' schools.
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And for me...
You completed elementary and high school.
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High school at the Lutheran school, which was the German school.
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And elementary at a Catholic school.
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A nuns' school.
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And for me it was always also a very natural transition to understand that the values I learned there — not the doctrine, not only philosophically, but the Christian values — were the values I defended politically.
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That is... which are very close to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
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I can't understand how someone can claim to be Christian without seeing the New Testament as the first great work asserting human rights for humanity.
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I mean, the idea that all are equal before God, in a society that had an emperor, where black people were slaves, where women did not exist.
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