Tarcisio: It's about logistics, and from the moment you act on logistics, you'll have the result.
Tarcisio: And we saw it drying up, drying up, drying up, and without saying anything, because it empties on a Thursday and the press discovers it's empty on a Monday.
And now comes the last phase, which is to transform the space: to bring investment, to bring the square, to bring housing, to bring the administrative center, to bring the VLT, and that will make the difference.
Tarcisio: And here they can be sure that downtown São Paulo, in four or five years, will be absolutely different.
Tarcisio: So whoever wants to bet on downtown, go ahead and bet.