Tarcisio: Or no — the responsibility isn't the State's, it's the City Hall's; it's the mayor who has to solve it.
Tarcisio: Really?
What we said and the stance we took — we said this many times, at many meetings; we met several times with the Public Prosecutor's Office, with the Judiciary — the responsibility for this problem is the State's, yes.
Tarcisio: It's the City Hall's, it's the Public Prosecutor's Office's, it's the Judiciary's, and it's society's.
Tarcisio: Because the question we have to ask is this: what do we want as a society?
