Sérgio Moro: The hole must have been, unfortunately, even larger, but it was possible to recover a good part of that theft.
Sérgio Moro: At that time, it was said that to obtain a contract with Petrobras, one had to pay bribes, not only to Petrobras directors, but also to steer funds to political parties, among them the PT (Workers' Party), to political agents of the PT.
In carrying out Operation Car Wash, we dismantled this fraudulent scheme that so embarrassed Brazil.
Sérgio Moro: So, if you really want to hear me, I make myself available.
Sérgio Moro: I'll go there and reveal this modus operandi of the PT (Workers' Party) governments of wanting to raise smoke screens to conceal their own responsibility, because it was INSS employees appointed by Lula, because it was a union that has as Vice‑President the brother of President Lula, who are the main suspects of this INSS theft, of this fraud, which victimized millions of vulnerable people, retirees and pensioners, who did not even have the means to defend themselves, because many of them did not even know that their benefits were being fraudulently deducted.