Sérgio Moro: Now these INSS thieves need to be punished harshly.
Sérgio Moro: Unlike the former Minister of Social Security and the current Minister of Social Security, who at the time was Secretary of Social Security, Wolney Queiroz, I was never specifically informed in a ministerial meeting about these frauds, about this deficit and I remained silent, or did not speak up, or did not take any measures, or merely followed the facts unfolding to have results the following year because of investigations by the CGU and the Federal Police, but if you want to insist on this summons, I will go, because there is one thing I can contribute, Senator Plínio: I am a specialist in uncovering and dismantling corruption schemes of the PT (Workers' Party) government.
During the previous PT (Workers' Party) government, in Lula's terms, we had the largest corruption scandal in this country, which was the looting of Petrobras.
Sérgio Moro: More than R$6 billion stolen were recovered by Petrobras alone.
Sérgio Moro: The hole must have been, unfortunately, even larger, but it was possible to recover a good part of that theft.