Renan Santos: since they are short-termists, be like, 'ah, let's have a regulatory framework that helps someone come here, open some mines and take it away.' It's sellout, right? That's it. It's the sellout. That's it. Yeah, sellout is the easiest thing in the world. It is.
Sérgio Sacani: They set a price
for Faria Lima to say that I'm going to privatize Petrobras. I don't want to privatize Petrobras.
Renan Santos: So I'm not willing to bargain with them at any cost.
Renan Santos: And that's the central point.