Marcos Rogério: It must be present not only with the repressive apparatus, not only with ostensive policing, not only with criminal investigation police, not only with the prison police; that is, you have the police that prevent crime, you have the police that investigate crime, and you have the police that, once a convict is incarcerated, guard the environment so that he remains there, has no connection to the outside and does not control criminal life outside prison.
Marcos Rogério: It is not only that; the presence of the State is not limited to that.
The presence of the State presupposes an aspect of prevention when it addresses the most pressing social ills.
Marcos Rogério: When you have needy communities, vulnerable communities, and the State is absent, what happens is that you end up allowing the emergence of a parallel power that used to dominate through the logic, through the tactic of fear.
Marcos Rogério: And crime continues to represent fear for a large portion of society, but the concern that leads us to this finding today is that this criminal who before only used instruments of violence to cause fear and domination now understands that, when there is an absent State that does not fulfill its role with social policies, educational policies, investments in basic public policies, sanitation, for example,