ENTREVISTA COM RENAN SANTOS (MISSÃO), CANDIDATO À PRESIDÊNCIA | CNN ELEIÇÕES

"Hello, good evening."

"CNN Brasil continues its series of interviews with the candidates running for the Presidency of the Republic."

"The six highest-ranked candidates in the CNN index, the CNN polling aggregator developed in partnership with IPESP Analítica, were invited."

"Today we have Renan Santos, from Missão, here in the studio."

"At my side in these interviews we have CNN's political analyst, Edilene Lopes."

"Edilene, good evening."

"Good evening, Márcio."

"Good evening, candidate."

"Good evening to our entire audience."

"We have 55 minutes for this interview and the clock starts now."

"Candidate, good evening."

About: investigate possible biases of STF ministers

"We begin this interview with Breaking News, because Minister Alexandre de Moraes accused his colleague André Mendonça of administrative misconduct, saying that he improperly conducted or would have improperly conducted the plea bargain process of Daniel Vorcaro, and also questioned the breach of confidentiality of the messages that were released last Monday."

"And in the end, Edson Fachin, the president of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), wants to hear from them now."

About: assess MPF's actions regarding disclosure of investigation reports

"Both Alexandre de Moraes and André Mendonça, as well as the Attorney General of the Republic, Paulo Gonê, who in the end asked that this report not be brought up."

About: assess impact of judicial investigations on the electoral race

"How do you assess that this will impact the electoral race in Brazil, and where do you think this story will end?"

About: arrest and hold those involved in corruption accountable

"I hope this story ends in jail."

"First of all, thank you very much for the opportunity."

"It's an honor to be here with you, it's an honor to be interviewed, and I hope to answer all the questions clearly, without beating around the bush."

"And that's the first one, and I can't beat around the bush."

About: preserve impeachment as an accountability mechanism

"Basically, we are living in a non-country."

"Brazil is finished."

"There are no functioning institutions left in Brazil."

"What is institutional order?"

About: investigate possible biases of STF ministers

"The idea that an STF minister, involved in a corruption scandal, 'owns' an inquiry — he has an inquiry that is his."

"And then he can add or remove people from the inquiry at his whim to punish those people."

"That he uses this illegal prerogative at a moment when he is being investigated in the biggest corruption scandal in Brazil's history only shows that Brazilian institutions no longer make any sense."

About: investigate parliamentary maneuvers that protect investigated authorities

"Today Alcolumbre, who is president of the Senate, therefore president of the Congress and president of the Brazilian Legislature, carried out... another one of his maneuvers, advancing what he did yesterday, which protects Alexandre de Moraes from facing an impeachment request."

"And he used as an example, yesterday, the fact that Flávio Bolsonaro, my rival in the elections, also received money from Daniel Vorcaro."

"Alexandre de Moraes received money via his wife, and Flávio received it as well."

"He said, 'look, since Flávio will not suffer any sanction, our friend Xandão won't either.'"

"In other words... the legislative power, the judicial power."

About: assess alleged interference by the Judiciary over the Executive

"And then you have the executive, which was urged — and there was a great Breaking News yesterday from William Wack on CNN commenting on this — the executive was urged, under pressure from the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), to also participate, to also act, to get its caucus to support this."

About: combat corruption and impunity

"It is a country in which the entire political system and the judiciary act in favor of impunity, against the interests of the population itself, and because they are permanently at war, we are watching those who should govern us, steal from us, and destroy us."

"Therefore, the next government needs to do two things and I'm going to drop a bomb now — not an atomic one, but an institutional one."

About: annul acts and decisions issued by investigated STF ministers

"The first bomb is: no decision originating from either Mr. Dias Toffoli or Mr. Alexandre de Moraes should be accepted in the next presidency of the Republic."

"Any decisions that come from those two ministers must be null and not recognized."

"Why?"

"Because all of their actions are aimed at protecting Daniel Vorcaro and this bizarre corruption scandal."

About: propose a new Constitution

"And second, Brazil needs to start discussing — not necessarily implementing right away, but we need to discuss now — a new Constitution."

"Because as it stands, Brazil's institutional order is finished."