Assista à entrevista exclusiva da RECORD com Lula (PT), candidato à Presidência da República

"We begin with an exclusive interview with the candidate for re-election from PT (Workers' Party), Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, recorded on Sunday morning in Brasília."

"Public security, relations with the President of the United States, Donald Trump, and the investigations involving his son, Fábio Luiz Lula da Silva, Lulinha, were some of the topics addressed in the conversation with Jornal da Record anchor Mariana Godoy."

"Record's journalism team came to Brasília for an exclusive interview with President Lula at the Palácio da Alvorada."

"Mr. President, thank you very much for receiving Domingo Espetacular here in your home on a Sunday."

"Ah, but it's important, at this moment in national politics, to speak with the media."

"And Sunday is a good day to speak."

"It's also a day of high viewership on Record, Mr. President."

"And because we have a lot to talk about."

"And we're just after football, so I'll start with the news item, with information that leaves an... impression and a suspicion about the relations of your son, Fábio Luiz Lulinha, and your former chief of staff, Marco Aurélio, known as Marcola, with a person who seemed to want to do business with various sectors of the federal government."

About: prevent, identify, investigate, and punish cases of corruption

"If there is something wrong once proven, what will you do about it?"

"What do you have to say about that?"

About: prevent, identify, investigate, and punish cases of corruption

"Mariana, I take this very seriously."

"First, because I'm not a judge."

"Second, I'm not a prosecutor, nor am I a police chief."

"I am the President of the Republic."

"And what I tell you, I tell my son, I tell anyone: we are all obliged to act correctly."

About: prevent, identify, investigate, and punish cases of corruption

"If someone is acting wrongly, that person will have to be investigated."

About: respect the independence of investigations

"And I'm not a president who tries to prohibit investigation."

"I don't threaten to sack ministers, I don't threaten to punish police chiefs."

"Investigate."

About: guarantee the right to full defense for those under investigation

"And everyone has the right to prove they are innocent."

"If that happens, they will be forgiven."

About: investigate and punish corruption and recover public funds

"But if someone commits wrongdoing, and that wrongdoing caused harm to the public coffers, those people will have to pay."

"For now, it seems the government's apparatus worked."

"Look, I think there are many conjectures."

"We have to be very careful with this, Mariana, because there are many conjectures."

"That is, when things start to leak, and you know I've been a victim of that since 1989, you can't lose your balance."

"And only you know the truth, Mariana."

"When someone is handling something, only you know the truth."

"I've told people who are innocent to prove it."

"Prove it."

"I have no problem being investigated, of taking part in an inquiry."

"This applies to my son, it applies to anyone."

"No one is unpunished if they commit wrongdoing."

"Therefore, that is my role as president."

"My son knows that if he commits wrongdoing, he will be tried, will be punished or will be acquitted."

"But he has to prove his innocence."

"And he knows that, because he knows what I went through."

"He lived with me for 40 years, he knows that his mother died because of Lava Jato."

"So, only he knows the truth."