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MELHORES MOMENTOS DA ENTREVISTA NA CNN
282 statements · 1 politicians · May 3, 2026 · 23 min
Statements by Renan Santos. 282 transcribed statements, with topic and stance on the ones the analysis classified. Topics: Judiciary, Institutions, Separation of Powers, Judiciary / Anti-Corruption.
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Desconhecido
Today we welcome here in the São Paulo studio Renan Santos, who is a pre-candidate for the Mission party, a party recently founded by the MBL movement.
Desconhecido
Larissa Rodrigues is with me on this journey, live from Brasília, here on the big screen.
Desconhecido
Pre-candidate, I'll call you that, very welcome here, it's a pleasure to have you, as we've had this opportunity to hear the candidates.
Desconhecido
I want to start, since we are two days — a week, two days after a very important political event that took place, given its unprecedented nature: the rejection of a name nominated to the Supreme Federal Tribunal and with the prospect that this vacancy left by Luiz Roberto Barroso may only be filled when a new president is chosen.
Desconhecido
So I want to hear you on this subject.
Desconhecido
Do you already have some names in mind for who they might be?
Desconhecido
Jurists suitable to be nominated to the Supreme Federal Tribunal, or if not the actual names, the profiles you consider most appropriate to be submitted to the Senate's hearing and approval?
Wonderful.
Really a pertinent question in light of last week's political atomic bomb.
First, thank you very much for the opportunity to be here with you, Yuri, with Larissa, with everyone, all the CNN viewers.
An honor.
- For
About: nominate ministers with a legalist profile to the STF
And to be direct in my answer, we need a legalist profile.
- For
About: nominate ministers with a legalist profile to the STF
One that does not defend the principles known as neoconstitutionalist, which Barroso himself defended — the idea that a Supreme Court justice must innovate, move away from being a jurist who analyzes the Constitution and create laws through their decisions.
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About: nominate ministers with a legalist profile to the STF
That created much of the distortions we see in the relationship between the judiciary and the legislature.
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About: nominate ministers with a legalist profile to the STF
So, figures who defend a classical perspective from the judiciary are the baseline: no law offices run by relatives or connected to them, no desire to take part in public debate.
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About: nominate ministers with a legalist profile to the STF
Highly discreet, no vanity, no wish to appear on social media.
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About: nominate ministers with a legalist profile to the STF
That already is a baseline, and obviously an unblemished past.
- For
About: nominate ministers with a legalist profile to the STF
That is the basis for someone to participate in a minimally healthy Supreme Court.
- Neutral
About: nominate ministers with a legalist profile to the STF
Around the world Supreme Courts are quiet and obscure; almost no one knows the names of the justices of those Supreme Courts.
- Neutral
About: nominate ministers with a legalist profile to the STF
In Brazil people know who the 11 STF justices are, but don't know who the 11 players who will play in the World Cup are.
- Ambiguous
About: preserve institutions' independence and strengthen confidence in them
It's symptomatic in a country that is sick.
Desconhecido
Yes, perhaps nowadays even Carlo Ancelotti knows who the Supreme's fans are and is still deciding there.
Desconhecido
But, Olari, before I pass the word to you, let me just ask one more thing to the pre-candidate, Renan.
Desconhecido
Because, given what happened, we also noticed a protagonism not only of the Judiciary, which you have already pointed out as a criticism, but of the Senate itself.
Desconhecido
So, in your assessment, what is the scenario that... The next president, whoever he may be, will face when it comes time to make the nominations?
Desconhecido
Because besides this vacancy, there is the expectation of at least three other justices who will reach retirement age.
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Luiz Fux, Carmen Lúcia and Gilmar Mendes.
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How, in your view, will it require from the future president political coordination to pave a viable path to approval, because after all that is what it's about: nominating a name that has a viable chance of being approved by the Senate that will be elected in October of this year?
- Neutral
About: reduce conflicts between the branches of government
Yuri, we have an institutional war.
- Neutral
About: reduce conflicts between the branches of government
It is an institutional war between the legislature and the judiciary, for various reasons, and at times we see alliances between them.
- Neutral
About: investigate improper alliances between STF members and senators
What is most spoken about is an alliance between part of the STF and some senators, yesterday in the ousting of Messias, combined with the overturning of the CPI of Banco Master.
- Neutral
About: investigate improper alliances between STF members and senators
The Banco Master CPI would, in practice, be a problem for STF justices and for members of the Senate.
- Neutral
About: investigate and hold accountable those involved in the Banco Master scandal
Just see that Alcolumbre is involved, starting with his big belly, in the Master scandal.
Alcolumbre is a figure who is very afraid of the repercussions.
Just look at the social security issue in Amapá.
Amapá bought, through its pension fund, securities that were not at all clean from Banco Master.
There were also appointments at the CVM that involved nominations by Alcolumbre himself.
So, you have a relationship of tension and alliance between the STF and the Senate.
- Neutral
About: reduce conflicts between the branches of government
And, in fact, the executive, legislative and judicial branches today are in conflict.
- Neutral
About: apply the law impartially and equally to everyone
over their powers, but united in the fight for impunity.
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