"Teremos superávit nas contas no ano que vem" diz Fernando Haddad | DIRETO AO PONTO

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1. Desconhecido

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   Regarding the accounts.

2. Desconhecido

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   Neutral

   About: calculate fiscal surplus including all expenses

   Currently there is a forecast of a surplus in the accounts, but there are also exclusions of spending.

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3. Desconhecido

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   It's something that is often questioned.

4. Desconhecido

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   Neutral

   About: reschedule payment of precatórios

   The precatórios had to be rescheduled again.

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5. Desconhecido

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   But already taking the precatório into account.

6. Desconhecido

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   So, it was already like that.

7. Desconhecido

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   Neutral

   About: exclude certain expenses from the surplus calculation

   So they are already not considering a series of things as expenses.

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8. Desconhecido

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   Neutral

   About: operate public accounts within the fiscal tolerance margin

   The government operates within a margin of tolerance.

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9. Desconhecido

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   Neutral

   About: achieve a fiscal surplus of 24 billion this year

   The forecast would be 24 billion for this year's public accounts.

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10. Fernando Haddad0:26 · play in the video

    No, but let me speak.
11. Fernando Haddad0:28 · play in the video

    For

    About: use Central Bank accounting to assess public accounts

    I'm considering it according to the Central Bank's accounting.

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12. Fernando Haddad0:31 · play in the video

    Against

    About: use fiscal rules to evaluate public accounts

    I'm not considering it according to the fiscal rules.

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13. Fernando Haddad0:36 · play in the video

    Neutral

    About: include precatórios in the primary deficit according to Central Bank accounting

    In the Central Bank's accounting, all precatórios are included in the primary deficit, regardless of whether they are inside or outside the framework.

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14. Fernando Haddad0:43 · play in the video

    For

    About: calculate fiscal surplus including all expenses

    And with all the precatórios already taken into account, we will have a surplus in the public accounts next year.

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15. Fernando Haddad0:49 · play in the video

    For

    About: use Central Bank accounting to assess public accounts

    So, I am also considering the exceptions.

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16. Fernando Haddad0:52 · play in the video

    For

    About: calculate fiscal surplus including all expenses

    What is outside, I'm putting inside.

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17. Fernando Haddad0:55 · play in the video

    Neutral

    About: use Central Bank accounting to assess public accounts

    Because in the Central Bank's accounting, they do the accounting regardless of the fiscal rule.

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18. Fernando Haddad1:00 · play in the video

    Neutral

    About: follow IMF methodology in public accounting

    They do the accounting according to the IMF guide.

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19. Desconhecido

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    Neutral

    About: exclude discounts from the fiscal calculation

    So do you disagree with the assessment that these discounts create an unrealistic situation, a portrayal different from the country's actual fiscal situation?

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20. Desconhecido

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    And I'd like to raise another point.
21. Fernando Haddad1:12 · play in the video

    For

    About: use Central Bank accounting to assess public accounts

    That's why I rely on the Central Bank's accounts.

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22. Desconhecido

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    Neutral

    About: increase interest rates on government bonds

    But then there is that negative reaction from the financial market, which is driving interest rates on government bonds much higher and results in more public debt.

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23. Desconhecido

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    That's what I wanted.

24. Desconhecido

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    Neutral

    About: increase interest rates on government bonds

    And it already hit a record last week.

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25. Desconhecido

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    Neutral

    About: pay higher interest on public debt

    So the government is having to pay more and more.

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26. Fernando Haddad1:33 · play in the video

    So I agree with you.

27. Desconhecido

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    Neutral

    About: control public spending

    Because there is this idea that the accounts are worsening, that at some point non-mandatory expenditures will no longer fit within the budget.

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28. Fernando Haddad1:41 · play in the video

    But you're talking about two different things.
29. Fernando Haddad1:43 · play in the video

    Neutral

    About: calculate primary balances as a measure of fiscal outcome

    I'm talking about the accounts... So, I'm talking about the primary accounts.

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30. Fernando Haddad1:48 · play in the video

    Neutral

    About: report inherited 200 billion deficit in public accounts

    I'm saying that I received almost a 200-billion deficit from the previous government and I cited the numbers here.

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31. Fernando Haddad1:55 · play in the video

    Anyone can question these numbers.
32. Fernando Haddad1:59 · play in the video

    From 2022 to 2023.
33. Fernando Haddad2:00 · play in the video

    Neutral

    About: calculate public deficit including precatórios, social programs and compensations

    From 2022 to 2023, 60 billion of explicit deficit, plus precatórios, plus Bolsa Família, plus compensation for the governors, equals 200 billion.

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34. Fernando Haddad2:09 · play in the video

    For

    About: calculate fiscal surplus including all expenses

    What I'm saying is that, all things considered for next year, we will have a surplus.

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35. Fernando Haddad2:13 · play in the video

    For

    About: promote a fiscal adjustment of 2% of GDP

    So, we need a fiscal adjustment of 2% of GDP.

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36. Fernando Haddad2:16 · play in the video

    For

    About: reduce the Selic rate

    The interest rate, I agree with you, is at a level that, in my opinion, it should not be.

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37. Fernando Haddad2:21 · play in the video

    For

    About: promote a fiscal adjustment of 2% of GDP

    So I agree; there is the remedy — let's implement the remedy together with the opposition.

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