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Painel Haddad (23/09/2019) - BRESSER PEREIRA
317 statements · 1 politicians · September 23, 2019 · 30 min
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My guest today is an economist and holds a law degree.
He has been a professor at Fundação Getúlio Vargas in São Paulo since 1959 and has edited the journal Economia Política since 1981.
He served as Minister of Finance in the Sarney government and as Minister of Administration and Minister of Science and Technology in the Fernando Henrique Cardoso government.
Good evening, Professor Bressa Pereira.
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Good evening, Fernando.
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It's a pleasure to have you here.
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Likewise.
How do you see it... Do you think Lula was a victim of a feeling similar to the feeling that shook the industrialists' relations with Getúlio?
What goes on in the mind of the Brazilian businessman?
that he is detaching himself from an agenda that seemed like an interesting resurgence in a process of emancipation of the Brazilian State?
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So, that question is important.
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And look, when PT (Workers' Party) emerged in 1980, it came with a very radical discourse.
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It was a discourse of socialist revolution, the idea of socialism, socialism and so on.
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Although Lula was never a revolutionary, in my view, that was the rhetoric.
A labor leader who became a social democrat.
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Lula is that, but I'm saying that the PT's rhetoric was further to the left.
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That is to say, that made the bourgeoisie very worried throughout the 1980s.
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Now, at the end, on the eve of being elected... this is already 2002, I mean, he wrote the letter to the Brazilian people.
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And then he made it clear, look, I'm not here to carry out any revolution, I'm a social democrat, I want to manage capitalism better than the capitalists.
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I have a commitment to the people, I will not abandon that commitment, but I think it's perfectly possible to attend to the workers and the people and naturally keep the capitalist system functioning as it is.
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That was the message and that quickly proved to be the case after his election.
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He kept his word.
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He kept his word.
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So his eight years in office were a huge success.
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A huge economic success, because Brazil grew a lot, greatly benefited by that strong rise in commodity prices.
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It was also a huge success... On the international level, Brazil's foreign policy projected the country in an extraordinary way.
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Brazil really became a partner of the major countries, an intermediary in solving the problems here in Latin America.
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Wonderful.
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And he finished with an approval rating of 87%.
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That is, the bourgeoisie was also with Lula at that moment.
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But you know how it is. Lula never stopped saying, 'I am committed to the poor.'
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He made many concessions; any politician has to make compromises.
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He made compromises, compromises.
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But without abandoning his basic commitment to the poor and to the workers.
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And then Dilma's government came.
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And during Dilma's government an economic crisis occurred.
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And an economic crisis that was to some extent... was inherited from Lula.
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The exchange rate had again become strongly appreciated.
Despite the purchase of foreign-exchange reserves at the level of 400 billion dollars.
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It's because Brazil's success was so great that the economic magazine made that famous cover of Christ the Redeemer flying, turning into a rocket that was taking off.
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