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DEBATE no SBT NEWS: KIM KATAGUIRI vai pra cima de PETISTA que ATACOU RENAN SANTOS!
218 statements · 1 politicians · August 9, 2026 · 31 min
Statements by Kim Kataguiri. 218 transcribed statements, with topic and stance on the ones the analysis classified. Topics: Public Safety and Order, Sale of Public Assets, Presidential Elections, Prison system.
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Hello, welcome everyone to our Tribuna do Voto, SBT News' debate program.
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I am Basília Rodrigues and in this edition we are going to talk about the importance of Brazil's largest electorate for the presidential contest.
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It's about São Paulo.
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There are 34 million voters, which corresponds to 21.5% of the national electorate.
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And that's why we bring here on the SBT News screen our two debaters.
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On one side, Kiko Seleguim, who is president of PT (Workers' Party) in São Paulo and also coordinator of Fernando Haddad's campaign, the PT candidate for São Paulo governor.
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On the other, Kim Kataguiri, from Missão, he is the leader of this new party, a federal deputy for the State.
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He is also from the State of São Paulo and will be here in this game of bets and assessments of two very different points of view in Brazilian politics in today's edition of our Tribuna do Voto.
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Kim is also national vice-president of that party Missão, which has come forward with candidate Renan Santos for the presidency of the Republic.
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You are different in the party, different also in the contest.
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Presidency of the Republic.
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Kim, Kiko, the only thing that unites you is the first letter of your first name.
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Well, Kim, no, I'll start with Kiko.
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Kiko, PT (Workers' Party) of São Paulo is with Haddad and, of course, will push for President Lula's re-election.
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In your assessment, if in 2022 Lula lost the state of São Paulo, why would it be different now?
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Well, first, thank you for the opportunity.
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Basília, I greet here Kim Cataguira and the entire SPT News team.
- Neutral
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About: combat organized crime
The issue of the PCC's growth in public security, the fact that it is operating in almost every state of the country and even has international transactions — it was born, it grew, and it has its tentacles here in São Paulo.
- Neutral
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About: combat organized crime
In fact, we've been seeing the institutional relationships that the PCC has maintained.
- Neutral
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About: combat organized crime
With colonels of the São Paulo Military Police, with Civil Police officers, state government agents, which brings great challenges and these four names are the ones who have
- For
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About: implement a lasting, planned public security policy
the greatest ability to present a plan for São Paulo and put it into practice.
- Against
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About: privatize Embrapa
Now I'm going to hear Kim Kataguiri. Note that in Kiko's answer, when I ask why now Paulistas will vote for Lula — an option they did not make in majority in 2022 — the president of PT (Workers' Party) in São Paulo talks about public security and also about privatization, like... The fact that the State privatized several of its services was harmful to life, to the day-to-day life of the resident there, both in the city, the São Paulo capital, and in the State of São Paulo.
- Neutral
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About: reelect the incumbent president
So, for these reasons, for wanting to improve their lives, the voter would now choose Lula.
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In your assessment, Kim Kataguiri, your party, which arrives with a new name, at least in the sense of a presidential candidate, but someone, Renan Santos, who already... has a trajectory of political activism, you who come from the MBL, Movimento Brasil Livre.
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Why would the voter from São Paulo choose someone who has never run for the presidency of the Republic and has not yet been tested in public office?
- Against
About: support the incumbent president in the elections
First, Basília, to say that it makes no sense to think that the State of São Paulo will support Lula; I am absolutely certain that the majority of the State is right-wing, especially the interior of the State.
- Against
About: support the incumbent president in the elections
They will not support the president of the Republic, even less for the reasons Kiko raised about public security.
About: invest in public security
We know that public security is a national calamity, and that the federal government's investment is paltry, incidentally.
About: invest in public security
Under Flávio Dino's administration, there were cuts on the order of hundreds of millions of reais in combating organized crime.
- Neutral
About: improve security in federal prisons
For the first time in history, there was an escape from a maximum security federal prison during Minister Lewandowski's administration, also not because of the cost of living.
About: reduce taxes on fuels
We see inflation leaving the target, we have one of the highest interest rates in the world and the government is increasing the tax burden.
- Neutral
About: reduce state intervention in the economy
The government assumed about 30% of GDP.
- Against
About: increase the tax burden
The tax burden is leaving the country with more than 32%, so I don't think for these reasons the country will go with Lula.
About: found a political party
Regarding Renan Santos, Renan managed to build a national political movement that is already 12 years old, organize the largest demonstrations in the country's history during President Dilma Rousseff's impeachment, a movement that is present in all states of the federation, that has already elected councilors, state deputies, me... as a federal deputy, and that managed to build a political party. Building a party is like running a large company's operation, because you need — we collected signatures in all states of the federation, hundreds of collectors, a production line to gather the signatures, send the signatures specifically to the registry office where that voter votes, make copies of those signatures, organize and develop our own software that we made.
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About: found a political party
A large part of our team — I'd say about half of the party's team — is made up of programmers; we innovated in that signature collection by collecting the physical forms but having software to match the person's information with the TSE system, which made us have the smallest loss of signatures due to data mismatches in the history of all political parties. And it's not easy to set up a party, the only party set up under this stricter electoral legislation. Take as an example the former President of the Republic, Jair Bolsonaro, who with the president's pen in hand, with the president's spotlight, with the microphones the president has, with a horde of fanatical followers, still couldn't even get past the collection phase.
past the signature collection, he didn't even reach delivering them to the registry offices, much less the TSE's judgment.
About: found a political party
So, Renan Santos runs the administration of this large structure that involves thousands of people today.
About: present clear government proposals to voters
Our party has, just in this first election, around 900 pre-candidates for parliaments across the country, and he himself has a more robust program and the best proposals — indeed, the only one so far that has presented concrete proposals.
About: present clear government proposals to voters
which are in our yellow book, which is our detailed program of about 500 pages, the result of the development of earlier books that promoted research and debates regarding this program.
About: combat corruption and the buying of parliamentary support
So, I think that for that supporter who is first concerned with honesty — we know about the scandals, that Lula and Flávio are involved — I think Renan Santos has experience being honest, as well as regarding a government plan.
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