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27 statements · 1 politicians · May 19, 2026
Statements by Sérgio Moro. 27 transcribed statements, with topic and stance on the ones the analysis classified. Topics: Federal Police, INSS Fraud, Parliamentary Investigation, Combating Impunity.
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Good afternoon everyone. First, Mr. President, allow me to praise the way Your Excellency has conducted the work and the way you treat all Senators of this House alike, whether from the Government's base, from the opposition, or even the independents.
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About: ensure independence and autonomy of Federal Police investigations
But the criticism I want to make today concerns the replacement of the lead investigator who was conducting the investigations into the theft from INSS retirees and pensioners.
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About: investigate irregular deductions from retirees
That theft was, in fact, the subject of the CPMI on the INSS, of which I was a member along with many Senators of this House.
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About: ensure independence and autonomy of Federal Police investigations
That investigation was heading toward a tragic closure in the middle of last year, when that CPMI was constituted and the Government lost the nominations for both the Rapporteur and the President.
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About: establish and sign a CPMI to investigate INSS fraud
That favored only a minimally adequate, reasonable investigation being carried out.
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About: investigate irregular deductions from retirees
The Rapporteur, the President and the opposition strove to ensure that the facts were ascertained.
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About: ensure independence and autonomy of Federal Police investigations
They were not fully ascertained only because the Government base worked against it, but the very constitution of the CPMI had, in my view, a positive side effect, which ended up resulting in the boosting of the investigations before the Federal Police and the judiciary, highlighting as an important milestone the reassignment of the case, which fell into the hands of Minister André Mendonça, who acted very courageously in presiding over the inquiry or in supervising the police work, even ordering the preventive detention, more than deserved, of central figures in that fraud and that crime, such as the former President of the INSS, Alessandro Stefanutto, suspected of having received a monthly payment of R$250,000 from associations benefited by the fraud, and Careca do INSS, actually the Marcos Valério of our time, at least in this INSS scandal.
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About: investigate the involvement of the President's son in INSS frauds
But those investigations also advanced thanks to the Federal Police, to the way the work was conducted during that period, and to the chief investigator responsible, who acted with independence and autonomy, it being worth noting, especially, that he placed under suspicion, and in relation to whom he requested investigative measures, Lulinha, none other than President Lula's son — a courageous action by that investigator, which deserved the applause not only of the CPMI but of the entire country, which wants to see exactly that.
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About: punish those responsible for the thefts from INSS retirees and pensioners
Those who stole from the INSS retirees and pensioners must pay severely for these crimes.
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About: consult the case rapporteur at the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) before transferring Federal Police inquiries
However, last week we were all surprised by the news that the inquiry was transferred to another sector of the Federal Police and, according to the journalistic pieces that were published, without the consent and without prior consultation of the Rapporteur of the case before the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), Minister André Mendonça.
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About: publicly disclose reasons for reassignments and transfers of officials handling Federal Police investigations
It is perplexing that, in a case of this magnitude, Senator Girão, the police officers and the police chief responsible were replaced without there being a cause, without a reason that can be publicly stated.
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About: consult the case rapporteur at the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) before transferring Federal Police inquiries
And furthermore, without the Rapporteur of the case before the STF having been consulted.
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About: ensure independence and autonomy of Federal Police investigations
I draw a parallel with Operation Lava Jato, which was the largest investigation in Brazil's history into corruption, in that case, the theft that was carried out at Petrobras during Lula's previous terms.
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About: ensure independence and autonomy of Federal Police investigations
If, at that time, any investigator responsible for conducting the investigations or the Federal Police superintendent there in Curitiba had been replaced, there would have been a popular uproar.
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About: ensure independence and autonomy of Federal Police investigations
And more: I, as the judge of the case, would never allow measures of that sort to be taken, contrary to a necessary cause.
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About: publicly disclose reasons for reassignments and transfers of officials handling Federal Police investigations
Of course, occasionally an investigator may be replaced because he no longer wishes to conduct the case or because he is at a point of need, even fatigue from complex investigations, but for that the reason would have to be publicly disclosed.
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About: publicly disclose reasons for reassignments and transfers of officials handling Federal Police investigations
And the Lula Government did not do that, the Federal Police did not do that, which leads us to suspect that the reasons are unpublishable.
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About: publicly disclose reasons for reassignments and transfers of officials handling Federal Police investigations
If the reasons are not exposed objectively, it is perhaps because they have to be hidden.
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About: investigate irregular deductions from retirees
So I fear, unfortunately, that this investigation, so well conducted by the Federal Police until now into the theft from INSS retirees and pensioners, may come to an end that is not the one desired by everyone, which is the complete elucidation of the facts.
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About: ensure independence and autonomy of Federal Police investigations
It is not because there is suspicion of the involvement of the President's son, that is, Lula's son, that the investigations must be obstructed, that the Federal Police should suffer any kind of hindrance in its fundamental mission.
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About: summon the Director of the Federal Police to provide explanations to Congress about the inquiry transfer
Therefore I subscribed to a request made by Senator Jaime Bagattoli, which was, by the way, endorsed by the entire opposition to the Lula Government, to request from the delegate, from the Director of the Federal Police, clarifications about what occurred, including also to call him to provide those clarifications before Congress.
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About: investigate irregular deductions from retirees
In my view, this theft from INSS retirees and pensioners was the most shameful episode of the Lula Government's corruption scandals, and note that the competition is fierce.
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About: investigate and punish corruption schemes using bank evidence
Not only now the Banco Master scandal, but also, in the past, the mensalão and the petrolão.
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About: investigate irregular deductions from retirees
But now those most vulnerable people were attacked and hit, those people who often had no means to protect themselves and were deceived by swindlers who fraudulently deducted their benefits.
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About: investigate irregular deductions from retirees
This crime cannot go unpunished and, for that, we need an impartial investigation.
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About: ensure independence and autonomy of Federal Police investigations
I have full confidence in the work carried out by Minister André Mendonça and had full confidence in the work that had been carried out by that team of the Federal Police.
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About: publicly disclose reasons for reassignments and transfers of officials handling Federal Police investigations
I hope — though I fear I may be mistaken — that the case continues to be handled by good hands, but for that we would need, at a minimum, a convincing, reasonable and objective explanation for why Lula replaced the investigator responsible for the investigations when those investigations may affect his own son. That is all, Mr. President. Thank you.
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