Tarcisio: And we're going to see this thing come to life now.
Tarcisio: In a few years.
We'll be riding the VLT, leaving from a CPTM station — for example, Júlio Prestes station — traveling through the historic center, arriving at Luz, and people will get to know it, will circulate through the administrative center, Miguel.
Tarcisio: I remember the first meeting, when we saw the first timeline, the first draft, right, Fifi?
Tarcisio: I said, folks, this won't do, they're going to tighten the nut.