Tarcisio: So, first thing, I needed to see this.
Tarcisio: We took over a state that, back then, was not very digital.
I needed a more digital state, I needed to see what was happening.
Tarcisio: When you start to see everything that's happening, you start to see opportunities for improvement.
Tarcisio: For example, we began to see that the Detran of São Paulo collected almost 2 billion less than the Detran of Minas Gerais.