Tarcisio: Look, back then we talked about Favela do Moinho, the design was in our heads, we knew what we had to do.
Tarcisio: And the difference is between those who can get things done and those who can't.
Because those who can't get things done pass by and don't solve Rodoanel, don't solve Favela do Moinho, don't solve the Santos-Guarujá Tunnel, don't solve Cracolândia, don't solve the universalization of sanitation.
Tarcisio: Then you think, wow, how much time we wasted.
Tarcisio: We could be way ahead.