Tarcisio: Well...
Tarcisio: Are they being honest with that worker? That is the big question. Why? If we can make him stay home one more day and have him receive the same pay, great, I think everyone is in favor, no one is against that. The problem is that the two main points we need to discuss in Brazil now are productivity and fiscal adjustment. And this issue may create a problem for both — for productivity and for fiscal adjustment. Because who guarantees that this guy...
won't be fired, so that, since the salary has to be maintained, the company doesn't hire someone for a lower amount. And then we'll end up harming that person who, in theory, is happy because they will be benefited. Are people — the government — being honest with that person? That's my doubt.
Tarcisio: Because if you guarantee that this person will work less and earn the same, great, everyone is in favor. The problem is, is that possible?
Tarcisio: Won't that person be fired? Aren't we going to be encouraging some moves toward informal work?