Tarcisio: Because the question we have to ask is this: what do we want as a society?
Tarcisio: If there isn't a major mobilization, we won't solve it.
I used to say to the construction people here, the Secov folks, come here — and you, what contribution are you going to make?
Tarcisio: I'm going to bet on downtown, we're going to build an administrative center, we're going to put 5 billion of investment into the center.
Tarcisio: And you?