Tarcisio: It's interesting people's selflessness — it's the guy who already made money in the market and decided to offer himself to public service. I think that's really great and it worked very well. I had eight units showing negative results; one was liquidated.
Tarcisio: One was privatized, but by the time it was privatized we had already flipped the switch and the others are now showing positive results. So it's interesting — it was a brutal turnaround. 500 million in losses, half a billion in losses in 2018; this year it should show half a billion in profit.
1.2 billion in cash, a lot of investment happening. There's a famous phrase which is: "Just don't steal, for fuck's sake."