Sérgio Moro: Senator Girão... (The bell rings.) ... I respect Your Excellency's opinion, but let's remember that famous phrase that 'the perfect is the enemy of the good.'
Sérgio Moro: The fact is that an approved text came from the Chamber of Deputies, and there was a strong possibility that it would be ratified in its entirety here in this Chamber as well, and the text that came from there did indeed address this issue in a uniform manner: eight years from the conviction by a collegiate body.
What was done yesterday was to ensure a harsher, more stringent treatment for those people who commit more serious crimes – corruption, embezzlement, drug trafficking, crimes committed by a criminal organization...
Sérgio Moro: So, that essence of the Clean Record Law was preserved here by this Chamber, and that is essentially important, because if the text had been approved...
Sérgio Moro: (Sound interruption.) ... in full... (The bell rings.) ... from the Chamber, then, yes, there would have been a complete hollowing out.