Sérgio Moro: For that reason, he was tried in the first instance, and was able to appeal to the second instance, in which he was likewise convicted, and was able to appeal to the third instance, the STJ (Superior Court of Justice), in which he was also convicted, until that political turnaround came and nullities were found there — in my view, nonexistent — which led to, let's say, a change in the former President's situation, who was released and later was even able to run for the Presidency of the Republic, without ever having been declared, by the way, innocent.
Sérgio Moro: So, the original sin of this case, in the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), concerns jurisdiction, as was very well put in Minister Luiz Fux's vote today.
And I do not see how the STF can justify that a jurisprudence of more than 20 years, of 25 years, be abruptly altered to justify the trial of this case before the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal).
Sérgio Moro: It would do the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) well to remit this case to the first instance.
Sérgio Moro: Thus it would show: 'Look, we do not have a specific interest in this cause.'