Sérgio Moro: The plain truth, Senator Esperidião Amin, is that this Lula government is hostile to preventing and combating corruption.
So it acts constantly to dismantle these mechanisms, and there are, unfortunately, others who are not necessarily inside the Government but who have an interest in this agenda; and today we had a victory, there in the CCJ, in preserving the Clean Record Law.
Sérgio Moro: (Bell rings.) And, on the other hand, yes, my impression is that the Government seeks to prevent an impartial and thorough investigation into these facts, into this theft from the INSS.
Sérgio Moro: Just as it, in a certain way, also influenced those decisions to annul the convictions in Operation Lava Jato.