Sérgio Moro: That's fraud, Lula.
Sérgio Moro: That's what happened at Petrobras during the PT governments.
Indeed, because of the people you put there and the environment you created that ended up enabling all that thievery and this corruption.
Sérgio Moro: The same shady scheme they carried out now in your new government.
Sérgio Moro: against INSS retirees and pensioners, even with suspicion, once again, of involvement by your son, Lulinha.