Samara Martins: So it could be me, it could be Léo, it could be anyone else.
Samara Martins: an activist from Unidade Popular, because we will defend the same program.
So our logic is not personalist, our logic is programmatic.
Samara Martins: So our discussion with anyone, whether quilombola leaders or parliamentary leaders, is about a program.
Samara Martins: And if... Lula debates in those terms, of course we're speaking hypothetically, if he debates in those terms, the problem is his and not ours.