Samara Martins: And we don't negotiate with Lula, because Lula is the person.
Samara Martins: It's not exactly the people who vote for Lula.
Because not everyone who votes for Lula is from the PT (Workers' Party).
Samara Martins: That is to say... We defend this program.
Samara Martins: And it's on this program that we wanted to discuss with Lula, because it's not about people, it's not about positions, it's about the program.