Samara Martins: to be able to pay, which is FIES and any other.
Samara Martins: in that sense.
And what we defend is more investment in the creation
Samara Martins: of more universities, so that everyone has free access, just as exists in elementary and secondary education.
Augusto Cury: Samara, with all due respect, we have many public universities, the federal government opened many public universities, but they don't have money for operational expenses.