Ronaldo Caiado: So he doesn't have conjugal visits and visits with a lawyer are recorded.
Ronaldo Caiado: So he doesn't give orders to kill anyone outside nor to threaten the penal officers.
Others serve their sentence and then you'll see, it's worth visiting the model we installed there: you think you're going to enter a factory, the whole garden is neat, the trees well pruned, everything beautiful, you don't see that prison stench, and you'll see huge facilities there.
Ronaldo Caiado: There are blocks; there are clothing workshops, motorcycle and car mechanic shops, engine reconditioning, carpentry; they train people to become bricklayers, painters; in short, there's a huge variety of workshops and manufacturing inside.
Ronaldo Caiado: So all of this — a large portion already leaves with formal employment.