Ronaldo Caiado: That is, balance the spending.
Ronaldo Caiado: We already started with a deficit of 0.5%.
Then it's about containing that abusive spending that the federal government is taking on with these populist measures, using... devices that, if the TCU were truly acting quickly, provisional measures to authorize extraordinary credit couldn't even be applied.
Ronaldo Caiado: We are not in a state of war or of calamity.
Ronaldo Caiado: This is, yes, a consequence of the government he established, the one Lula implemented.