Romeu Zema: A person doesn't even have access to gas to cook food; they go and cut vegetation, pollute the water because there is no sewage treatment.
Romeu Zema: So the two go hand in hand and Brazil hasn't been able to.
We have empowered many NGOs in ways that are totally incompatible with social and economic development.
Romeu Zema: They are people who want to put money in their pockets, want to make noise and not see this country succeed, because they live off misery.
Romeu Zema: When President Jair Bolsonaro was in office, he also talked a lot about NGOs; he created a somewhat belligerent climate with NGOs that operated, for example, in the Amazon region.