Romeu Zema: That's what I did my whole life as an entrepreneur.
Romeu Zema: An entrepreneur, a businessperson in Brazil does that, because if they don't improve efficiency, they're out of the game.
And here we have a government that only keeps accumulating bloat and inefficiency over the decades.
Romeu Zema: We need to put an end to it and I will.
Romeu Zema: Candidate, I would also like to revisit a topic that you, right at the start of the interview—because you used a term, "ecoxitas", to refer to environmental defenders, those of us involved in environmental protection.