Romeu Zema: Both increased in value by more than 300%.
Romeu Zema: And it's possible to do the same.
And when we take what Petrobras is worth, what Banco do Brasil is worth, what Correios is worth, and invest in infrastructure — railways, waterways, ports, airports — how much will this country grow?
Romeu Zema: It would be much more than it is currently growing.
Romeu Zema: By the way, Brazil has been falling behind.