Renan Santos: Where am I trying to get with this? If I have increased my investment capacity, I have generated a security of a future outlook for Brazil and people can walk the streets without having their phones stolen, then I can start to imagine how to solve the issues.
Renan Santos: Talk about the big themes.
And there's an accelerator in this process, which is the issue of rare earths.
Renan Santos: But this is a sovereigntist discussion about rare earths. Because it's not about how Brazil, or Brazilian entrepreneurs, make money from this, but rather how Brazil repositions itself in a new global value chain.
Renan Santos: in a sovereign way, and taking advantage of the fact that it kind of has, Serejão correct me, 20% of global reserves