Renan Santos: It's about the discipline of the population itself.
Renan Santos: So, I'm going to say things people will disagree with at first, but that were done in Singapore.
For example, if a guy spray-painted something, he has to be jailed for many years.
Renan Santos: It has to be a non-bailable crime.
Renan Santos: If a guy throws 'nicho' in the street, grab his trash bag and throw it.