Renan Santos: We have to have a competitiveness agenda, to have, as she mentioned, fiscal space, which is why I talk a lot about fiscal reform on the expenditure side.
Renan Santos: There needs to be fiscal reform on the expenditure side so there is money left for us to make the right investments.
And based on that... bring, negotiate with the United States or with China, or whoever, not only the production of the rare earths and their export, but bring the semiconductor industry, bring the arms industry, make technology transfer agreements, and then we can start to build a high-capacity defense industry so that Brazil can prepare for the new world that is coming.
Renan Santos: This new world to come will not have Brazil merely as a spectator.
Renan Santos: Our survival strategy in this world is different.