Renan Santos: It's rising; we're heading toward insolvency and inability to renegotiate our own debts, given that this debt ratio is exploding and someone will need to carry out a fiscal reform focused on expenditures.
Renan Santos: Colossal, we will be the ones to do this. And when I say here — I leave it here — if they will sabotage the other pre-candidates for president, throw the challenge to them. If they say, 'ah I also have a bold fiscal agenda, like Renan's,' do they have it?
Kim Kataguiri filed the constitutional amendment with this fiscal reform, that is, the project is already in the National Congress.
Renan Santos: Ask them to endorse it, collect signatures through their parties, because we need it. And it is this PEC that does deindexations, detachment of earmarks, deals with privileges, and also deals with tax waivers,
Renan Santos: astronomical ones that exist for numerous sectors in Brazil. And then we move forward with the economic issue that will allow me to reduce interest rates.