Renan Santos: If I were populist, on an issue like that, I would have adopted the simplest stance of all, which would be to say what the herd of candidates is pushing.
Renan Santos: Look, let's make you work less—rest easy.
It's a lie; that will make people lose their jobs.
Renan Santos: So I just wanted to say what we really think in the best way possible, understanding that it was a space where people were outraged, because the candidates who are leading the polls at the moment weren't there.
Renan Santos: So, then, I have today—I'm in a... with a different energy here with you today.