Renan Santos: rare earths.
Renan Santos: And we are now discussing to whom we will sell the rare earths.
We have to have a competitiveness agenda, to have, as she mentioned, fiscal space, which is why I talk a lot about fiscal reform on the expenditure side.
Renan Santos: There needs to be fiscal reform on the expenditure side so there is money left for us to make the right investments.
Renan Santos: And based on that... bring, negotiate with the United States or with China, or whoever, not only the production of the rare earths and their export, but bring the semiconductor industry, bring the arms industry, make technology transfer agreements, and then we can start to build a high-capacity defense industry so that Brazil can prepare for the new world that is coming.