Renan Santos: sell a melon and not sell our version of melô in that ice cream? I think it's Korean, Japanese.
Renan Santos: juices, because we don't move up the chain. The Brazilian government has to understand the geopolitical role it must have, to have global brands and not through simple financing, subsidies, but through an agenda of competitiveness, bringing together, let's say, productive forces, create that.
There has to be a brand. Like, how do people not take outside Brazil the São Geraldo cajuína? It's the best soft drink in the world. People should drink it, they should know how to sell that internationally. That logic.
Renan Santos: Yes.
Renan Santos: Provide the means for the private initiative, not hinder, but understand that the government has a role of...