Renan Santos: India can be a central partner, because India has a gigantic population and it can consume Brazilian commodities. Not so much iron ore, but food—in the end, everyone will need soy. Obviously.
Renan Santos: Africa is also growing a lot in population, so it's a place to consume. So we can reduce Chinese dependence for those exports and go to other markets.
Meanwhile, in parallel, we work on building that complex. You're going to need a real presence.
Renan Santos: The beauty is, if we do this here...
Renan Santos: Man, we've become a serious country.