Renan Santos: It's Joesley. Joesley is one of the biggest, let's say...
Renan Santos: prospectors of rare earths in Brazil.
What is Brazil's role in this game? And this I'm putting on the table here for everyone to discuss, because this topic is central.
Renan Santos: Brazil depends heavily on China. Having said that, this question of rare earths is one of the great opportunities for us to make a civilizational leap.
Renan Santos: The United States depends on us, not only them. Japan depends a lot. Want another one that depends? Taiwan.